- Arthanari Chandrasekaran
- Chennai , Tamil Nadu
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What causes the heart to beat?
Often i have wondered what causes the heart to contract and distract. Like they say the heart is the engine running our body what fuels this engine and makes it do the lap and the tap. And why over a period of time it stops to do this function that it has done for decades together. Does the reason only narrows down to this mechanism which contracts and distracts the heart or there are other reasons or some combination of all degradation of our body parts.
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heart life medical science
Ed Schulte 50+
Con.t of the tea cup lead..
Look at this in reverse progression …the actual creation process is from Noetic on down . And the process for ALL manifestation is the same in that respect. This why the more recent analogy of “The big Freeze” is correct over the “Big Bang” material existence is a manifestation dew to the dropping down to a lower ( the lowest) level of all levels …not must of a Bang at all!!
Back to the “pick up the tea cup”…it is entirely possible to use Mind to create an “Elemental” of the material arm/hand and pick up the cup which your physical heads are still on the key board.
Re the transplanted heart …are you sure that the WHOLE Etheric Double of the transplant donator is not in on that “lets have a beer” thing. As you say hmmmm….and by the Bye IT IS Friday quitting time ..so “Lets have a beer ( skip to chick nuggets though)
daniel hehir 20+
There's a lot here for my etheric double to digest ...
The "Big Freeze" will be the first.
Blavatsky apparently could perform such feats as picking things up at a distance.
Some can even stop their heart beat at will.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4312481/Romanias-Got-Talent-won-by-Cristian-Gog-who-stopped-his-own-heart.html
Got to run Ed. On my way to Spain in the night at 3.15 so I don't know if I have access to internet.
Try to catch up to you later out their on the TED ether...
Ed Schulte 50+
The term "Etheric Heart" and "etheric Double of the Heart" are one and the samefor most purposes.
This has always interested me because I was raised Catholic and ..often studied the older images of the Sacred Heart of Virgin Mary's images/status. These show it correctly. The Etheric Heart ( iow the Etheric double of the physical heart) is above and toward the certre of the body . The heart with a tourch of rosey red Fire. )
The "zapper" you can provide your / or other's / Etheric Heart ( and concidently support the physical heart) is to go there with your "inner(ertheric) or "third" eye" and add an addition Rosey Red fame ( an Elemantal flame) to the one existing there now, all the while admiring the existing flame. That addition flame will be very welome!! (( this primary Visualization))
Linda Taylor 50+
Lars Mews
It is not like that that a heart beats out of nowhere. See, during pregnancy the later body is build, and during pregnancy when a specific build level is reached, the fuel is injected to the system and so the show starts (and ends when no fuel is refilled or fuel is contaminated and so on). The clever aspect is that the parts of the body already are able to work without the body having the tank and engine able to run on its own. This is a very clever system, as it means that you are not dependent on a specific environment, only on specific fuel/energy, which probably can be of artificial origin too.
There is no miracle at all. You can see that when looking at a cars engine. The single parts do move when energy is given to it, but of course it does not run "alone", as long as the full machine is not ready. And like the machine heart, the machine in a car will stop "beating" once there is a problem in fuel provision or any other part of it is damaged. It can be a very small part that makes the whole thing stop, like a big damage or medium damage too.
And we are very close to discover a lot new things about "soul". With 3d Printers we will be able to produce human or any other body. Through try and error we can find out were "we" or our "soul/mind" is located. We can leave parts, try all possible combinations etc.. This will not give answer to where we or the life comes from, but it helps us to understand why it stays here, how it can be caught.
Who knows, maybe we are able to catch minds or souls on that way? Should be possible, in theory. The DNA is just a security code to hold the mind inside the machine, that is why every body is similiar, but still with small diffrences.
Ed Schulte 50+
We are probably way out of line here for TED type conversations …but hen again we are safely out of the way of the continually repeating Science/Religion/happy/what is consciousness …and subject of the thread covers them all!
So, OK, firstly ‘words’ are just words so what must be done is establish a common usage for the purpose of sharing and move on.
Etheric Body (ies) is used to associate with the origin word “Etheic” the highest/first quality of manifestation out of Source. What is commonly called space is part of the “Etheric” just as all that is contained in the material Universe.
Astral refers to (and yes I know, in the common communications of the “New Age” it is used all of the place) those forms which come into existence by being “projected” out of Human mind , Individually and or Collectively. They are not sustained by Life itself (only we Humans are) so they become inaction when the Human stops projecting it. Yes astrals can join together an form other astrals BUT nor can they survive with out the energy Humans “feed” them.
I don’t want this to be loooong…so if you would please consider the above…..so the Etheric Body refers to the specific formation we Humans become the moment we , as rays of pure source, pass through the “Human Idea” iow become “Breathing” “Heart beating” beings. A of the maintenance requirements of this “Body” is taken care of by Higher Intelligence ( it come along with the light source) call it MIND if that helps but please don’t confuse it with small ‘mind’ ( that which creates Astral beings)
Ok over to you
daniel hehir 20+
Pretty quiet here on your most interesting question! I see you have one materialistic explanation from Linda and another quite spiritual one from Ed.
Take a look at this link I sent you. There is much more to learn about the organ of the heart. Not only that the heart is also a carrier of memories .. which in itself, is pretty mind blowing! But it is also a carrier of emotions as well. There are a lot of stories about how people who have had a heart transplant experience the desires that lived in the heart of the heart donor. Which sort of explodes the myth that everything is happening in the brain and the brain alone.
What Ed is getting at is that we have a spiritual body or "etheric body" which is the energy force that penetrates and forms the living substance that we call our physical body. When we die, these two bodies separate from each other. The life body going back to the eternal life energy and the physical body returning to its natural element .. the physical.
The conception that the heart is no more than a pump is also a bit out of date. This is what we learn in grade school but it is only a partial truth. Some are now seeing the heart as more of a valve than a pump. This changes our perspective on things a bit. The heart, as the human beings "emotional organ", one might say that the entire heart
region is more of an emotional regulator.
Think about the way you sometimes blush. .... and now think about the way you are sometimes afraid.
These are two polarities. In the blushing condition the blood rushes to the surface of the body, usually the face, neck and shoulders. While in fear, the blood rushes to the inner organs. This is a reflection of a spiritual / emotional condition that arises in the soul of the person prior to the movement of the blood.
Pretty interesting ...!
http://theophanes.hubpages.com/hub/Cellular-Memories-in-Organ-Transplant-Recipients
Linda Taylor 50+
daniel hehir 20+
Have you ever considered the fear / shame polarity ?
Linda Taylor 50+
http://www.aaets.org/article30.htm
http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/Class/Psy332/Salinas/Models/McGaughC.pdf
Did you know that any cell in the heart can initiate a beat?
Ed Schulte 50+
daniel hehir 20+
Long time :-)
Could you explain a little further ...??
Greetings from Daniel
Ed Schulte 50+
How are you?
I responded in the question in the brief direct way...obviously the material heart doesn't activate its own actions any more then does any of the body organs. They are under the control of some intelligence far greater the the mind )small m) can muster ....it is in the realm of Mind ...that which creates and maintains.
Etheric body is the first "layer" after "material" and this is what the greater intelligence Mind (capital M) facilitates for the purpose of Life existing in inert material Body. Ancient would say the Etheric Body is the form or mould in which the Material body is created.
Hope that helps explain the comment.
Be Well Be Present
EdS
PS anticipating your next question....so ...yes ...if the mind can reach higher levels ...towards Mind is can ...with proper develop the ability to step in a control heart rates and breath rates etc etc ....all the way to "Resurrection at will"...through the higher bodies...as past attained ones have demonstrated.
daniel hehir 20+
I am somewhat familiar with these terms, at least in an intellectual way. The experience however has not come my way yet... still waiting... still working on it.
What do you mean by the etheric double? Can you go a little deeper into that?
My first thoughts were , Isn't it the astral body that compresses the muscular system in and around the heart...? Although the etheric body is very close up to the astral ... if we can think of it in "spacial" terms at all.
The eteric is very connected with rhythms .. at least after what I've read. So what you refer to as the double leads me to think in the same direction but still not achieving any clear concept of it.
Tell me more if you will.
Thanks, Daniel
Ed Schulte 50+
We are probably way out of line here for TED type conversations …but hen again we are safely out of the way of the continually repeating Science/Religion/happy/what is consciousness …and subject of the thread covers them all!So, OK, firstly ‘words’ are just words so what must be done is establish a common usage for the purpose of sharing and move on.Etheric Body (ies) is used to associate with the origin word “Etheic” the highest/first quality of manifestation out of Source. What is commonly called space is part of the “Etheric” just as all that is contained in the material Universe.
"Astral" refers to (and yes I know, in the common communications of the “New Age” it is used all of the place) those forms which come into existence by being “projected” out of Human mind , Individually and or Collectively. They are not sustained by Life itself (only we Humans are) so they become inaction when the Human stops projecting it. Yes astrals can join together an form other astrals BUT nor can they survive with out the energy Humans “feed” them.I don’t want this to be loooong…so if you would please consider the above…..
so the Etheric Body refers to the specific formation we Humans become the moment we , as rays of pure source, pass through the “Human Idea” iow become “Breathing” “Heart beating” beings. All of the maintenance requirements of this “Body” are taken care of by Higher Intelligence ( it come along with the light source) call it MIND if that helps but please don’t confuse it with small ‘mind’ ( that which creates Astral beings) Ok over to you
Linda Taylor 50+
I know that might sound snide but it is truly a question to help me understand how this is conceptualized. It really is not intended to be snarky in any way.
daniel hehir 20+
I had just written a long response to your previous comment and somehow zapped it away by accident. ...
Lets see, as I was saying...
The "idea" comes to my mind first .. move your hand and pick up that cup. Often almost unnoticed ... then this impulse travels through the astral element of desire, through the etheric / life element or "force" body that in turn moves the actual physical hand.
It's quite simplified here of course. All that goes on from the brain all the way down to the neurological level of the movement of the hand takes its course in this manner.
Memory is something that immediately complicates the picture. The ether body is the carrier of all our memories ... not the physical brain as modern science would have us to think. Check out the link further up that I sent to Arthanari about people having desires that follow from a heart transplant. The heart is also an organ of both desires and memories.
There are many many such stories about people getting transplants and suddenly getting overpowering desires for either beer or chicken nuggets or some strange thing...
So it seems that a part of the soul body, the desire body, follows along with the physical heart after a transplantation. One might ask the next question ... yes ... what happens to the soul body of the person who donated the organ .....?? hmmmm
Ed Schulte 50+