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Wherefore religions. What's it really about?

Religions are, in the final analysis, based on collective searches for a resolution to fears which have no possible rational solution.

Closing Statement from O'Neil Poree

No comment directly addressed my clear thesis.
One (Humphrey) positively acknowledged it.
One (Debra) seemed to enjoy it as much as I hoped the cognoscenti would.

Most denied, it seems to me, that we are apparently buried in a universe we are neither well-enough equipped to understand nor safe in our pretensions to be the end-product and purpose or this complex creation.

No one applauded the implications that our view of creation either is incomplete (scientific) or irrational (religious).

I am very pleased with TED's provision of a billboard to get this idea into the entire group's cognitive space (especially without the necessity toattempt to write a complete philosophy textlet).

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    Aug 3 2012: I believe that it is all about tiny little human beings in fragile bodies with minds that they do not understand trying mightily to understand the universe, everything that is out there and confusing and find a plan to live with and live by. I think that MOST people need to be permitted to see the world as they are able.
    My qualifier is because some get so off track that they want to harm others and that deserves intervention, in my own value system.
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    Aug 4 2012: Buddhism and Taoism seam to imply that to accept these fears will actually defeat them. Out of all the religions these seem most compatible with my agnosticism. I tend to see other religions pushing hate and judgement covertly, while saying they are positive overtly.
  • Aug 3 2012: Please don't neglect the many which belie many thingas science can explain very well.
  • Aug 3 2012: I’m not a religious man but that puts me at a disadvantage seeing that the country was built by Christians. Look at a map, the capital sits between the Virgin Mary. The best thing about religion is that it is free and accessible by the masses. Religions have contributed to strengthening those who look for strength as well as death through violent wars. The absolute worst thing about religions is that they refuse to accept truth until they are forced to. They are mostly ignorant, ritualistic and tribal.
  • Aug 3 2012: Power and control of OTHER people by people who were probably impotent to control their own behavior.
  • Aug 9 2012: In my opinion, they are a set of laws (sacred and fearful), so we live a civilized life, better than what we come from "ANIMALS".

    Say, a way of life!
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    Aug 9 2012: Religions - my take:
    There is God, all religions are mankind's attempts at understanding Him. There is no right or wrong one, the biggest and most important thing to use is your conscience.

    Physics (unconventional I admit) (for a clue, look up Wave Structure of Matter – professor (Physics) Dr Milo Wolff) tells me that 'time' can only be made if there is an outside of 'time'. If there is an outside of time then that is where to look for our origins (not along the time-line back towards a big-bang).

    The hardest question facing mankind is the origin of consciousness: “It is so hard I don't even know the question, let alone the answer” - professor (Biology) Richard Dawkins (Oxford UK). I believe its origin is from the outside of time place (look up Alex Green's remarkable analysis of it)

    If there is a god, and if he is all love, then he would never, never banish anybody to any horrible region they call hell. These ideas are promoted to help enforce the rule of religious authorities.

    Religion is there for you to choose if you want it, religious authorities should never impose their interpretations of records of historical events on anyone.
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    Aug 4 2012: See the debate I have started about religion and spirituality as humankinds meta-sense in addition to the five physical senses. Religion and spirituality as an extra lense or sense in which to experience and nurture our communities and world and individuals.
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    Aug 4 2012: Religions share the idea of a divine, or supernatural power to be obeyed and worshipped as the creator and controller of the universe. As a human construct each religion defines its own: god, or gods; doctrines; covenants; rules of conduct; rituals; ethics; and philosophy. Individuals choose which of the thousands of religions they wish to be supporters, or disciples, of. The phrase, "faith based" has specific application here. Many turn to religion for explanations not otherwise available. Many participate as a continuation of family tradition and heritage. Many participate for social or political reasons. Many participate for economic/employment reasons. Most nations do not tax religious institutions. Somewhere in there is at least part of your answer regarding "What is it really about?"
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      Aug 3 2012: I'm not trying to belie religion on purpose, I was just focusing on 2 main points, so sorry if it came out like that.

      I don't really know for sure whether God or some other similar being really exists, but it's not to say they don't exist. Newton was one of the greatest physicists in history but even he, a man of science, turned to God for the remainder of his years. Science can explain a lot of things, but they don't explain everything, and even today, science cannot explain whether God exists or not.
  • Aug 3 2012: Debra, My point takes reasoning very much akin to yours here, and attributes the religious solution to those collectives (or hival minds) who sympathetically enlist us over the course of our lives.I emphasize the SOCIAL character.Crusades by an individual can be dismaying, but those by an entire culture: catastrophic!
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    Aug 3 2012: Religion is a much abused word these days. I guess it involves the rituals associated with whatever one has made god of their lives. For many it is money, for others it is football; the list is endless.
    However my guess is that we are talking about gods in a spiritual sense. Buddha, Allah, Jehovah, etc.
    My take is this. God created the universe & gave us the workshop manual so that we could understand. Lots of us are not keen on this, so we have made up other manuals of our own. So we have a plethora of God's & Holy Books & interpretations. This serves two purposes. 1) It makes any search for the true God that much harder, 2) Many just assume that as there are so many that there is no such entity, & this is a valid reason for not looking in the first place.
    So that's my take.

    :-)
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    Aug 3 2012: Are they?
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    Aug 3 2012: From what I can see, religions are 2 things:

    1) An explanation to anything that science/physics can't explain.

    2) A community where people feel like they belong.