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A statement rephrased as a question: I think therefore what am I?

Am I my connectome?

A spiritual force of change?

Chaotic self-organization?

A vessel for an ecosystem?

Can you answer this question for yourself? What are we?

  • Jul 30 2012: According to the book Quantum Philosophy we are singularities, the end product of a very profound happening.
  • Jul 28 2012: I prefer to say; "I am experiencing existence therefore I must exist".

    What is in question is my nature and the nature of that which is around me. I could be a robot or an alien without knowing it. I could be a computer program in a simulation. I could be exactly what I appear to be. I could be any other 1 of an infinite number of possible things whilst unaware of my true nature.

    Whatever my true nature happens to be, I still exist.

    By extension, I would argue that everyone I interact with must exist because I am experiencing their existence.

    Again, it is their nature which is questionable. They could be as little as a set of misfiring neurons in my brain during a hallucination but a set of misfiring neurons in my brain are still a thing, therefore, they exist.

    Beyond this point everything is an assumption of necessity based on the observed patterns of my experience.

    To answer you question though;

    I believe I am more than my physical construct because I don't believe that the consciousness i experience can be built or programmed. If I am no more than my physical presence then I am a biological robot but no matter how complex a program gets, you cannot program a consciousness.


    As I said though, this is just an assumption of necessity.
  • Jul 28 2012: You've answered your question , starting with 'what I am' and and ending ' what are we ? '

    I are We
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      Jul 28 2012: .
      Natasha, is this your call for multiple personality?
      If so, me, myself and I will be relaxed then... ;o)
      • Jul 28 2012: No, i didn't mean DID :)
        It's physics, it's all information from different domains I've managed to get up to date. Do i perceive I as We ? No, if i did, i would be a saint or dead, and i am neither of those.
        The realization of this simple truth is just a starting point , the rest will come with, i believe :)
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          Jul 28 2012: Oh..., now we are confused...

          Physics, saints ... I knew some of me should have paid attention in class instead of daydreaming... ;o)

          But I think I have an idea now about yours.
      • Jul 28 2012: No, confusion here :)
        Advanced science all over the genre tells crazy things : mirror neurons..."I am my connectome"...Quantum entanglement...all these "spooky actions in a distance"...
        No matter how abstract it may seem it's all about us humans. If you think it is not, think again what non human could possibly appear in human mind ? There is nothing external anywhere, all science is ' know thyself' project . To cut the story short, science tells : we are a global net of interconnections.
        Saints are those who tamed their ego and experienced the 'self' as a global net of interconnections, for them there were no others.
        That's the meeting point :)
        BTW. Daydreaming is an essential part of the process of becoming aware. Without experiencing something we don't have a name for, we'd never connect dots, all information will be just a soup of unconnected ideas.

        Have a nice daydream ! :)
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          Jul 28 2012: So quantum entanglement could then calculate the distance in between children in bed and their monster in the closet? Imagine how calm they could sleep if the result was zero, which would state, that monsters were off duty that night! ;o)

          And thanks to your more detailed information I am now certain about your concept of interconnectivity on which I agree with you. But also I see our human mind more like a very poor 'radio receiver' only capable to hear only a view notes out of the symphony of the universe, and even those we do hear are subjected to interpretation and misinterpretation.

          By connecting those dots we became aware of while daydreaming - no monsters in the closet at daytime ;o) - we may structure our soup of ideas, yet we may also just create another flavour of just another soup by doing so ...

          If I am my connectome - and I think I am - then my soup, my notes, my flavour is likely to be misinterpreted. And the good thing is that it doesn't really matter as long as we like what's in the pot and that we like what we hear... :o)

          And for the sake of all children, let's get qantum mechanics taught in kindergarten... ;o)
      • Jul 28 2012: " connectome " is a tiny 'empty' space between neurons , it is not yours or mine, it's the most dense thing you could possibly imagine ; it's 'we' , including those who lived and died mllennia ago and those who are not yet born, and that is entangled all the rest is your/my soup, we use to 'calculate the distance in between ...whatever,.and I am using now, typing my response and thinking how not to look a total crackpot :)
        Maybe our mind is not a receiver, but a filter, a very sophisticated filter, that allows in, only that information that can focus its possessor on here and now to insure the survival of the separate self. The rest of mind is a storage of our memories, beliefs, that were filtered , interpreted , reinforced with daily ( allowed ) inputs and looks like reality.
        It's a beautiful organ, don't see anything poor in it, if not that powerful device we'd go mad in a fraction of a second. I love it ! : ) But we are not our mind, we are much bigger.
        I don't know if there is/was anybody who can hear the whole Symphony, but we can recognise the tune, and it is not our mind that does the trick, it's something much more subtle. Consciousness ? Actually, i don't think, that consciousness whatever it is , is capable of recognition or any kind of cognition, IT IS a TUNE itself of the Symphony or maybe Symphony itself if we raise our consciousness to vibrate on the highest frequencies.
        Still i sound like a crackpot : ) Frankly , i don't care !

        Cheers !
  • Jul 28 2012: I think,
    I am ink.

    That is what I am. Just ink. Electronic ink.
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    Jul 28 2012: IN MY VIEW:
    We are what we choose to be. We are our choices.
    • Jul 28 2012: What about if you are abused to be. Are you choosing or is the abuser? You cannot not choose to experience the effects of trauma. You can choose how to perceive it only if you know you have a choice.
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        Jul 28 2012: Seems your question refers to a forced activity. In such case either you can choose to resist or choose to let it happen. If you resist and still it happens then its nothing more than an accident and you can't stop accidents from happening in life but yes you can decide the impact of accident or to the degree you will change after that event. If we ignore the effect then we remain who we are.
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    Jul 27 2012: One of the greatest achievements of complex chemistry and time.
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    Jul 27 2012: My actions my deeds relentlessly defining what am I....
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    Jul 27 2012: I think, therefore I am. The world is a home of words; and the words that lives in you determines who you are or who you will become.

    I acted on a short film titled 'Cogito Ergo Sum' translated 'I think, therefore I am'. Please watch at:
    • Jul 28 2012: Whoa dude! Just watched that movie. Pretty intense stuff. Slick production value too.
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    Jul 27 2012: I think therefore, I exist, or I'm aware of my existence...