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india against corruption
considering that many people of india want corruption completely cleansed by means of waiting for the next election in 2014 and finding good people who will be supposedly immune to corruption to lead the country, would the people of india be better off trying to convince existing officials to be less corrupt, or just simply locking up officials who have been conducting such activities?
i admit this is a leading question, but this is my view on the matter.
please also note that there is a "do or die" anti-corruption movement as seen here: http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.org/
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Nachiket Deshpande
Also it is quite good to see you guys worry for our country ! May you be the inspiration for all of us !
David Hamilton 50+
pat gilbert 50+
Simba P.K.S
griffin tucker 10+
i hope that by letting the younger generations of India focus on their own long-term future, and even the long-term future of India, will show that bribes and corruption only work for the short-term, and make the future harder.
i truly believe that not only India, but everyone on earth needs to learn that corruption only works for the short-term, and the effects it has on the future can be disastrous.
i don't know of any youtube videos that show how corrupt short-term gains mean a bad future in the long-term, but i'm sure it's true.
Simba P.K.S
I sometimes think that everyone is willing to talk, but no one wants to take the action themselves! This is something to be concerned with! We can have year long Rio+20 or +50 or whatever, but all that is done is talk! Isn't it so? Similarly, even politicians speak on how corruption is a big challenge, and that the corrupt people must be sent to prison. But, the problem is that that's all they do. They stop there. They don't usually proceed to the next step & take action.
May be a series of small small changes night result in a bigger change tomorrow, paving way for a corruption free society! But for that, a "moral revolution" is a must! It needs a spark from somewhere to kick-start it...:)
griffin tucker 10+
next time you or one of your friends or relatives is offered a bribe, tell the person offering the bribe to think of their long-term future, their career, and India's future. it won't matter if you accept the bribe or not, just as long as the message stands clear and they actually think about it.
if they do think about their long-term future, they will realise that they won't be happy to continue to bribe for the rest of their lives. as for their career, they will realise that they may not be offered a promotion or may even lose their job if they continue to bribe people. when they think of India's future, they may see that India can thrive once corruption would be seen as something of the past.
your long-term future, your long-term career, your future India.
Simba P.K.S
Robert Winner 50+
One of the facts that hit me was that 135 of the 540 members of the Parliment were being investigated for crimes including human trafficking, rape, murder, and embezzlement. That is one forth of the legislators. Hello ... we got a problem here.
The problem is that each district is very different in religions, ethnicity, cultures and political standings. The legislature is made up of radical communist to rabid conservatives and all voted in through their districts.
The median voting age in India is 25. Perhaps that should be where you draw a line in the sand. You are not asking any party to endorse or betray, but instead you are appealing to a age demographic to be aware of the existing problem and enlist them to address thye problem. This group probally has the largest networking system in the country. They cell, e-mail, tweet, facebook, etc ... and are far more influential than even they realize. This must be a grass roots movement and they are the seeds that will sow discontent.
Through a youth movement perhaps they will rid the government of career politicians. That alone will solve much of the current problems. The youth have a totally different view of the future and could guide India into a new role in the world eye.
Start there and see what happens .... almost anything is better than what you have.
All the best. Bob.
griffin tucker 10+
the ambulatory business set up by Shaffi Mather (see above linked TED-Talk) that is completely independent of the government obviously shows there are definitely people who want to help. i think it is mostly made up of the relatively younger generation of india's people, too.
i think that independent regulatory authorities, independent organisations, and perhaps even independent educational institutions need to be found, or expanded if they already exist.
as for appealing to the younger generation, if it were to involve a grass-roots movement, i'd start with some sort of selection of viral youtube videos, focusing on collaboration, construction, and education, as quite a high percentage of India's population already have cellular/mobile phones, and i would expect the population is now starting to receive internet-capable computers/phones at a ever-increasingly rapid rate.
corruption is becoming more and more evident not only in India, but all over the world.
what is done about it, or what can be done about it, is the question both you and i are focusing on here, and to be honest, i'm not really the entrepreneur to start it.
Debra Smith 200+
griffin tucker 10+
would China benefit from India's corruption, and therefore little investment from other countries for the future?
i say no.
the world is becoming increasingly smaller, open, and transparent, not to just a few of the elite, but increasingly more for just about everyone on the planet.
if India's economy is to grow, and not exactly compete, but more-so strengthen bilaterally so that everyone benefits, there are huge opportunities for both China and India to excel at the same time, benefiting the world economy and humanity.
however, if India's officials continue to be ruled by questionable-at-best (sometimes even conglomerate) companies, not only would the government and India's people suffer, but eventually so would the companies.
edward long 100+
griffin tucker 10+
you raise an interesting point, if money is their current motive, then why not reward them with money or other incentives to be more forth-coming that would result in a better outcome for everyone?
of course it would have to be more profitable than current bribes and blackmails that are going on, which could be an issue.
can you think of any other incentives aside from money that would result in less corruption?
edward long 100+
Debra Smith 200+
griffin tucker 10+
while i see your views on the matter, and the situation is obviously desperate, a change in government officials (at least at the higher end of the spectrum) isn't going to happen until 2014.
even if india's people were to try to remove corrupt officials from the lower end of the spectrum, replacing these officials would be arduous at best because of the fear of becoming corrupt and hated. then, even if good people with no intention of becoming corrupt were to become apart of the current system, they could very easily, as you put it, become a bad apple.
that being said, perhaps working from the ground up would be a better approach than simply going straight to the top and removing the top leaders. in this sense i suppose it would be like curing the semi-bad apples with a sort of medicine, and allowing other officials to see how the medicine works (being truly admired by the people) before 'taking a dose of medicine' themselves.
my view is that the officials are people. not bad. not good. just people.
their actions may have bad consequences, but i believe that if these officials are shown more opportunities to do good, instead of being shown a limited amount of choices that all have bad consequences, then it is up to the people of india to show them these opportunities, and, more importantly, the good opportunities' effects on everyone, including themselves.
perhaps i'm living a pipe-dream?
Debra Smith 200+
griffin tucker 10+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CA_Technologies#Controversies
then i can see why you think a sweeping change is needed.
i won't go into detail, but my experience with that company was bad, and it was only a couple of years ago. admittedly it could have been just a bad apple out of all of their employees, but after visiting their official online forum, i was surprised that many people went through the same problems that i did with their employees.
i guess the lesson here that i'm trying to explain is that in order to get rid of corruption, you can't just simply work from the top-down, you need to work both from the ground up, as well as the top-down. perhaps even middle-management at the same time, too.
please note that it was actually a couple of years ago that i dealt with CA Technologies' employees, i would expect and they may have already made sweeping changes with their employees, as well as the fact that it could have been just a few bad apples, as with any company, as any large company has controversies surrounding them.
Debra Smith 200+
griffin tucker 10+
i think that opening someone's eyes to the long-term is a very, very important point, and you got that point across very successfully.
this is also what i'm trying to develop here in relation to India's people, officials, and the entire world population in general.
edward long 100+
griffin tucker 10+
that being said, corruption has become a way of life for many people in India, yes, but more and more people in India and abroad are talking about it as if something is wrong with it. many, many people.
talking about it is a starting point.
James Zhang 30+