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Community!

How nice would it be to live in a place where all the products you used came from local producers and manufactures, where people greeted you when you passed by, where the people in your township came together for those who need the extra hand. I am talking about community!
Over the past 50 years it seems that the community that held people together in the United States has disappeared. As manufactures move overseas to find cheaper prices and the church becomes more and more distant, the people of America change their focus from their communities to themselves.
My passion is to bring community back to America. I would love to hear some suggestions and ideas on to how to make this happen. Anyone who would be interested in joining the journey, please do not hesitate to contact me. All my contact information can be found on my profile page.

So please any suggestions or ideas would be amazing!

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    Jul 10 2012: This conversation was similar, the one poster Richard had some ideas on this subject

    I think for any real involvement to take place there has to be a real purpose or goal with out this it will not fly.

    Secondly I think that the government doesn't like individuals doing things like this as it impinges on their rice bowl. A friend of mine is volunteer fire fighter. He tells me the professionals do what they can to nullify their efforts because of this reason.

    In order for the individual to prosper he has to have small groups to work with as with a family, church, boy scouts, chamber of commerce, etc. The problem is when the larger government creates an environment that does not allow this to occur as with high taxes, regulations, licensing etc. as this burdens the individual to the point of not having the time to do these activities.


    http://www.ted.com/conversations/9808/how_do_we_get_back_the_neighbo.html
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      Jul 10 2012: It puts a smile on my face to know that other people are having intellectual conversations about community. I have to thank you for the link, it is a very interesting conversation with lots of information. It seems like this is how most of the conversations have gone, the way different people feel about the issue. What I am hoping to do with this idea is expand it into ways that we can make a change. It is great the conversations have been made about the different views. I also have the ambitious plan to bring like minded people together through this idea and potentially even have some people work together to create change.
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        Jul 10 2012: What is your goal for the group?
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          Jul 10 2012: Now I must admit that I do not have this fully figured out, but here is my rought draft.

          I want to bring small business back. It is important to have manufacturing and produce to be made, if possible, in the communities that can.

          As a second to this, to make sure that the impact is more felt, to have secondary non for profit organizations to create an infrastructure so that they communities to be self suuficient.
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      Jul 10 2012: The goal to bring Community back, your right there is no way to start progress on the goal of community, requires a series of smaller goals. Among those smaller goals are numerous other goals, and from there numerous other goals.

      Once there is an establishment of people dedicated to a cause, then work can start, with real, attainable goals attachted to it. I personally have a series of rough ideas to complete a series of goals I have in mind.

      I think the problem at hand has less to do with the environment the government has created and more to do with the fact that people have no infrastructure for community to exist.

      We can look at business for an example. We have moved from small, local businesses creating produce and operating the manufacturing to large, cookie cutter corporations bringing in the produce and moving the moanufacturing overseas. So we have changed from having towns working together to create a product to a series of high level executives making the decision on where the products should come from. So the towns have lost their pride, lost that bond that brought them together, lost the sense of who they were.

      Now this is just one example, but there are several others. I honestly think that presented in the correct light the government would actually endorse a change in community.

      Thank you for the comment!
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        Jul 10 2012: You have stated the purpose of Community but that is not a goal. To determine if it is a goal simply tell me what the metric is, if you cannot give me a metric you have not given me a goal.

        Where a product comes from is irrelevant to my previous post.
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          Jul 10 2012: The conversation has become a little confusing, admitting my own fault, so I will try to answer you question and I hope I am not being redundant.

          My goal is to bring small businesses back to America.
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        Jul 10 2012: Ok how do you put a metric to that?
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        Jul 10 2012: The problem with lofty goals is that they are never achieved.

        Basic point of logic is that you have to compare what is to what was, this is done by a metric.

        If you can't think up a metric that reflect progress in this endeavor then you do not have a goal as by definition a goal can be measured.

        The old maxim of if you want to manage it then you have to measure it.

        Where this gets a little tricky is in the area of is it a purpose or a goal.

        For example I have the purpose of waking TEDsters up to the dangers of socialism. Ok great how do I measure my sucess? I can't therefore it is not a goal.

        If I had the goal of getting TEDsters to register as Republicans (funny huh?) now that is a goal as I can count how many TEDsters I got to register or change their registration to Republican.
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          Jul 10 2012: Thank you for your patience, I know understand what you are asking. To measure the success of community, even bringing small business back to America for that point, is too complexe to be measured by one varible. This judgement would be a series of varibles all put together and analyzed. For example, the market shares, number of businesses, etc.
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        Jul 10 2012: I hear you but none the less for it to be an effective goal it has to be something that can be measured other wise it will remain a purpose with out anything effective being done about it.

        I will add that the goal of bringing back small business from overseas is dubious. Small business doesn't usually get off shored in the first place. And that is going to start shifting anyway as the Chinese are starting to make more money so the advantage is diminishing and that by 2015 they will be gone.

        The factors in off shoring are not just money but also taxes and regulations with the highest corporate taxes in the world and some of the most onerous regulations not the least of which is Sarbanes Oxley.

        Another factor is some of the worst educated individual in industrialized countries. This is absolutely caused at least mostly by goverment meddling.
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          Jul 11 2012: I also hear you on your points. But we must remember that this project is very young. No real plans have even been talked about. Heck, you could even say the creation of this "idea" was the start of the project.

          For now I feel that we need to soldify what we believe, what we would like to see happen and how to go about doing it before we decide how to judge how effective it is. Now, I am not saying that it is not important, on the contary, I believe it is very important, but I think that we are not at that stage yet. Yes, we could create one today, but it would simply evolve as we did until we soldified what our views, believes and goals are.
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        Jul 11 2012: Ok I don't agree but that is all I want to say about this.

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