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Where would you go if you had one chance to move through time?
My question is simple. Where (or more importantly when) would you like to go if you had one chance to move through time, past or future?
Lets say hypothetically the rules are, if you do anything, it might provoke future implications e.g killing Hitler would solve World War II. Also, on a more important note, if you kill someone it might affect your existence e.g if you (for some weird reason) kill your grandfather, you would cease to exist. This meaning you CAN interact with the world around you.
For arguments sake, stepping on a butterfly won't change the entire course of civilization and meeting yourself won't result in the end of the world or yourself exploding etc.
Any way, where and when would you go if you had the opportunity?
I for instance (taking this from Back to the Future 2) would like to tell a past self to bet big on a race and win loads of cash if I were feeling pretty selfish!
Realistically, I don't know really know where or when I would like to go, so I am asking you lot to give me inspiration as I know you will!
Robert Winner 50+
So in summary Rob, I I know who I am, what I am, and like where I am. So I'll stay right here in the present. Tomarrow my grandkids will have joys and heartbreaks and I will be here to share their highs and lows.. It don't get any better than that. Thanks for the offer to journey ... please give my ticket to someone who wishes to escape.
All the best. Bob.
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dean crawford
I agree simpler times and less stresss. But a man could be a man without haveing to explane his choices. May not have it as easy with moderen conviences but id give them up in a second.
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Barry Palmer 50+
Stewart Gault 30+
Debra Smith 200+
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Krisztián Pintér 200+
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Rob Clark
Would someone else not theorize the same ideas as Kant did?
I think people are evil, because they are just pure evil and not because of the ideas a person once formulated.
Although it's a good idea trying to get to the root of a problem i.e taking out Kant instead of Hussein.
By the way I'm not denouncing your theory, I would just like to hear more!
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Rob Clark
Surely not every human is good through and through?
I know I'm not! I have my flaws (not comparing myself to a genocidal maniac however...)
There is no way for us to be truly pure, its our nature to want to break the rules, be different and escape normality. You could argue thats what many people you have described beforehand had done, albeit for all the wrong reasons.
Right and wrong are also points of view.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - Gerald Seymour
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Rob Clark
If their primal instinct is to kill, not out revenge or for personal gain, but just because it is their urge and want to. Much like I feel I was born to be creative and create music, if someone feels the same way about killing to relieve their addiction.
It is not a right or wrong for them necessarily because they don't know any better maybe.
Obviously we would judge that person to be immoral, a sinner, sick or however you want to phrase it, but if we changed our accusations of immorality, that person could still be out in the world killing people and it may one day affect you directly. So the concept is not a bad thing.
Even if this person was obsessed with killing people who he deemed immoral, or were killers themselves, how would that be judged under this new law of morality?
dean crawford
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I too love the Old West, something about it is very appealing
Rob Clark
Thank you for all replying and taking your time out to do so. It seems the vast majority of you are saying the end, or a place where there is no time.
I would just like to touch on a point that Stewart mentioned as well as a couple of my own.
If you travelled to where there is no time, surely it would be impossible for you to travel back to where you came as you needed to time to travel. So traveling to no time would mean you being stuck there, or not being able to get there at all, as the point of time you are traveling to has no time space to get there.
Also, why would you all like to go there? I considered this to be my answer too. Say if it was possible to get to where there is no time, whilst it might be a huge insight into and could very well explain everything that ever happened, would it not be... boring?
Of all the places you could visit, all the people you could meet, all the things you could change, you would wish to travel to the place where you could spectate the end of all things?
Just something to think about!
edward long 100+
Stewart Gault 30+
Colleen Steen 500+
Rob Clark
The very idea of not moving at all is a great one. After all, whats so wrong with our lives that we have to leave the dimensions of our own?
Colleen Steen 500+
Hers's another thought...can you imagine that we are moving to other dimensions AND here now?
Rob Clark
I'm not sure what you mean by moving to other dimensions and being in the present... do you mean that our lives moving through one dimension and then once we pass, moving into the next?
Colleen Steen 500+
I agree that as humans, we often have a desire to explore, discover and are very curious. I believe curiosity to be a GREAT motivator for change and movement, and it's also enjoyable to view the world through curious eyes, heart and mind:>)
That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes..."
(Marcel Proust)
With that in mind, there is an opportunity in each and every moment, wherever we are, to explore, follow our curiosity and discover:>)
Perhaps intent is an important factor to keep in mind when we are considering exploration of the place we are in, or another place? If we want to go to a new place because we are unhappy where we are, it might help to consider why we are unhappy, because wherever we go, there we are...with our "self". So, if we are going someplace else, it would be good to repack our "baggage" before we leave?
You noted in another comment that lots of folks want to go to the end...NOW. For me, happiness/contentment is a way of travel, not a destination. So, I enjoy the journey...here....now.
Nothing about our choice is good/bad...right/wrong...better/worse...etc. Our intent, however, could change our perception of any journey.
Re: moving to other dimensions:
Yes...we could be moving through one dimension, then passing into another dimension. I also suspect that we may have the ability to travel through several dimensions at the same time. Time is a human construct, so this concept may be difficult to understand. In other dimensions "out there", time may not be a limitation.
Rob Clark
But that is not to say that someone else would not take his place. Which is why I agree with you wholly that not moving at all would be ideal, because who knows what might unfold if we alter ANYTHING in another life?
I also agree that emotions can take us places that time could simply not comprehend. Sure moving back or forward in different dimensions could help us realize dreams that could make us very happy indeed, but is the point of life not to make our lives here and now as great as possible?
I understand what you mean about time being a human construct, but reading back into your discussion with Stewart also he is also correct. While there is a time/space which humans ourselves cannot alter because that is the fabric of reality, our perception of time is based around our lives i.e seconds, hours are how we decided to measure the world. So essentially, without the world, our perception of time would be immensely different if we lived on Mars or something. But it is still a linear function and does not change.
I find the best way to describe what you mean about what I make out to be your definition of time being a human construct is when we are dreaming. We can nap for say half an hour, but our minds when we dream, take us to dimensions and plains of reality which become entirely our own and can last for however long we want. (Until the alarm goes off!)
Colleen Steen 500+
So, are you discovering that there are as many answers to your question as there are people in our world??? LOL
Yeah...sometimes, we may think we can alter something in the past and make it better, but who knows? Conditions that we think/feel may improve the situation may, in fact have the opposite effect!
Yes...I agree...the point in living this life experience is to make our lives here and now as great as possible....in my humble experience/perception:>)
We use time as a way to organize ourselves in the human experience. You say..."without the world, our perception of time would be immensely different...". Could it be that without the limitation of time, our world would be very different? Just an idea:>)
I agree with your perception of the dream state. I have not worn a watch for about 25 years. I eat when hungry, sleep when tired, and sometimes get lost in time and space when working/playing on a project. Thankfully, I was self employed for most of my adult life, and retired now, so I had/have a certain amount of freedom regarding time, and never had to punch a time clock, which I realize some people need to do.
Feyisayo Anjorin 50+
Stewart Gault 30+
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Ed Schulte 50+
Gord G 30+
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Chance for anything in particular may I ask?
edward long 100+
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edward long 100+
Stewart Gault 30+
Colleen Steen 500+
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Colleen Steen 500+
Yeah...sounds pretty bad!!!
Interesting theory....however...you are still referencing human constructs. My experience is that there is nothing and everything..."out there":>) It is neither hot nor cold...neither light or dark...you get the picture?
Stewart Gault 30+
Colleen Steen 500+
Stewart Gault 30+
Could you explain the order and disorder at the same time to me please?
Colleen Steen 500+
I believe that we co-create reality in each moment. There are generally many factors that contribute to our perception of reality....yes? So, in my perception, it depends a lot on where the information is coming from, with which we co-create our reality. I agree with your perception that we observe how things work...make laws, rules, create terms to describe and explain...on the human physical plain.
Order/disorder....this is a very simple example...remember that I am not a scientist:>)
I have places in my home that are very orderly....living spaces for example...neat and orderly.
I also have places (the barn, shed, storage closets) that to some people look VERY disorderly.
However, they are, in my mind "orderly" because even though many things are buried and cannot be seen, I know EXACTLY where everything is, and can find it in a second.
So, it would appear that "order" and "disorder" are perceptions...terms to help us understand something, AND they can co-exist...just like many concepts in my humble opinion:>)
Imagine this simple concept on a much grander scale? Like the universe and beyond? Sometimes things appear orderly when they are not, and sometimes we perceive disorder, when that is not reality...maybe....to some people. Make any sense?
If something is not possible in your perception and terms, it does not necessarily mean it is not reality...yes? no? maybe? I think you get my point...like I said...same page different language:>)
Stewart Gault 30+
And factors which create reality are mainly light, illusion of solids, and physical laws.
But I totally get you now even though we're on about two different things lol.
Colleen Steen 500+
So, why is high energy state considered "order", and low energy state "disorder"? What is the observational change that causes the difference in terms/perceptions?
I agree..."factors which create reality are mainly light, illusion of solids, and physical laws"...as created by humans. There may be other realities:>)
Stewart Gault 30+
But it's all to do with available energy. So in a universal context, the early universe had lots of energy in the form of heat, but as it cooled (due to laws of thermodynamics) it gained entropy or in other words it has lost available energy. So it all a measure of available energy.
The observational changes are many but here's a few, a hot cup of tea cools down and spreads its heat through the air, but a cold cup of tea never warms up unless we expend more energy to heat it up (energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred from one form to another) so the observation is the change in energy levels, so say the tea starts at 100C and the air 20C, then the tea becomes 80C and the air becomes 25C (convection currents will constantly provide new air that's why the air isn't now 40C) And this will keep happening on and on until the tea loses all it's energy and the air spreads the heat over such a distance that the energy levels drop again to room temp. That's just one example of how available energy is transferred until there is none left.
I agree that there may be different realities but there must be common factors, as in we must all see a table, we all must perceive an attractive gravitational force, and experience the same idea of solids to name a view. They can vary on colour, even if you saw in x rays a table would still reflect x rays in the shape of a table etc, time is relevant to us, these are a few things I can think of.
Colleen Steen 500+
You say..."I agree that there may be different realities but there must be common factors..."
I suggest that energy is the common factor. As you say..."energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred from one form to another". In my perception and experience, energy keeps moving to a number of different forms...some of which we do not yet understand as humans. You said in another conversation, that there may be energies we have not yet discovered or labeled? I totally agree with that:>)
Stewart Gault 30+
Colleen Steen 500+