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New Zealand legalizing same sex marriage, and gay adoption.

Hey, I found out recently that my country, New Zealand, doesn't allow gay people to marry! I seriously thought that it was, but now I am disappointed and ashamed of my country. I am proud to be a New Zealander, proud to say that I belong to a modern, forward thinking nation (of course, I am very aware that New Zealand is very far from perfect, but allow me my patriotism) - like I am proud to say that I am Christian. I am straight, but I see the unimaginable pain that homophobic attitudes cause and I completely, 100% support gay marriage and adoption. Maybe I was naieve to assume that my fellow kiwi's felt the same way. We were the first country to give women the vote - why can't we be so proactive in our support for gay people? Surely the contribution that they have made to society and the stigma they have endured must be recognized: I want gay marriage and adoption legalized! Hey, NZ (and other teens) who's with me?
By the way - on gay adoption - gay parents have been proven to be just as capable - or incapable - of bringing up kids as straights. If you are worrying about the kids psychological welfare, the only harm that I can see coming in that respect is from the outside society: and if so, shouldn't we be working to change society, not limit the rights of our brothers and sisters?

Closing Statement from Geileis O'Kelly

Ok, hey, so because I didn't reply to you guys in time, I'm going to do so now. :)
Random chance 10+ - you go, dude. :)
Hey Steve Burgess? I know, and yeah, I've noticed that there is more of a phobia against guys for some reason, but it is improving. I mean, I was in Religious Educationt the other day - first I heard the populars celebrating that gay marriage might be made legal - !! - then I heard my teacher - for Religious education - agree with them, and say that she didn't knwo anyone who didn't. So, there's definitely hope. :) Despite one girl I had an argument with a a few days ago on the topic. grrr....anyways. Thank you for that! That's sweet. :) I'm not alone. Far from it.
Debra Smith - Isn't that what I was saying? i'm ashamed because we're not there yet. :)

Anyway, it is good to know that other New zealanders share my opinion, and that there are laws going through. John D, you're awesome. Thank you guys for all your contributions. I wish I could make the time longer. :)

  • Jul 20 2012: nz is pretty homophobic well to gay guys anyway maybe ive been in nelson to long.geileis people like you give me hope tho.
  • Jun 27 2012: Quote:
    "shouldn't we be working to change society, not limit the rights of our brothers and sisters?"

    YES, emphatically yes. Humans have been fighting for their freedom since day one and here it is 2012 and we still have to do so. If we were simply told the truth, as we have been told we were, then why do we still seek the truth?

    Because we intuitively know we have been lied to, about just about everything and this is just another lie that is high on the list of sexual lies.

    And by the way, these Envy apples from New Zealand that I have been eating, are delicious. And all this time I had been believing that eating an apple would make me ashamed. Of something.
    • Jul 1 2012: Thank you for your support! :)

      I know. I just wish people would stop being so damn scared of what they don't understand and just watch, research and try to put themselves in other's shoes before they opened their mouths. They cause so much pain, I don;t think people realize.

      Well, thanks! I'll take the credit for the apple companies....despite the fact I had nothing to do with it...XD
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    Jul 22 2012: Whenever the preponderence of citizens of any country get closer to according all people human rights, it is a cause for celebration not shame,Geileis!
  • Jul 6 2012: Quote:
    "I just think it's a problem emphasized way to much"

    Then stop emphasizing it.
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    Jul 3 2012: Their are more purposeful thing that need to happen in society and some on a quite large scale, so the last thing a state, province,ect. needs to worry about is gay protestors. I don't have anything against gay marriage, I just think it's a problem emphasized way to much.
    • Jul 3 2012: You have a point there. Thing is, more than one thing can be 'protested' for at a time, and it does have to change. And it really is a problem. Personally, I think we're all sane adults capable of multi-tasking, it's not like one can't support two things at once.
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    Jun 29 2012: Honestly, It all causes mote trouble than it's worth.
    • Jul 1 2012: Oh yes? Your reasoning?
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        Jul 2 2012: The world doesn't need crowds of protesters clogging the streets like they own the place.
        • Jul 2 2012: They do own 'the place.' It's their world too and they have every right to try to confront injustice.
          If you don't like it, stay inside.
          Besides, its not like they do it every day.

          Any better reasons?
  • Jun 29 2012: We have civil unions for both same-sex and hetero couples but only marriage for hetero couples at present. There are bills being drafted right now by both the Labour and National parties to change the marriage and adoption laws. :)
    • Jul 1 2012: I know. If I was lesbian, though, it would be nice to be able to put a proper ring on my partner's finger and say 'oh yeah, we're married', instead of just, 'oh yeah, we're in a civil union.' you know? It's what we're all brought up to want, to dream about - that proposal - and I don't think it's fair that somedon't get the full, legal fulfillment of that dream, don't you?

      I know, I heard about those!!! And the poll results - that was nice to read, eh. :)
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    Jun 27 2012: NZ isn't the only country, the UK, USA and most of Europe is in the same boat but it looks like it's all about to change :)
    • Jul 1 2012: That's true - I certainly hope it'll change, anyway! ^^