Sal Rabah

manager, The New Social Security

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The New Social Security is a position paper on moving toward a fairer society via leveling the value of contributions of individuals.

To make the transition from a currency system to a hour system we can rely on an existing system currently in use to track hours worked. Currently, during your working years, earnings covered by Social Security are posted to your Social Security record and you earn credits based on those earnings. Using time as a measure of one’s earnings over currency can be an easy transition. Hours are already being recorded by employers. Who then report those hours to the Social Security Administration (The SSA). The SSA currently measures the amount of time in credits to determine eligibility for social security. Therefore, little needs to change to effect implementation of a record keeping program for validating hours accomplished. There will have to be some changes within the SSA to account for a frequent reporting system to a (newly proposed) Fairness Review Board. We may also need to alter the unit of measure as needed for frequently identifying compliance with work hours. But there is no need for me to get into that much detail here at the moment.

See the full position paper here: http://wp.me/p27AbZ-7

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    Jul 21 2012: [continuing...]

    "But there is no need for me to get into that much detail here at the moment." Considering this is the source document, I would advise getting into as much detail as possible - but I agree you don't want to bog down the flow of the main idea; consider adding a hyperlink one could use for drilling down to these details.

    "...view The Global Oneness Project as their ideas relate to this." If you could fold in some of the most relevant ideas it might be helpful; but retain the link.

    "There shall be no law imposed to force a regulation of labor, education or religious faith to non-subscribers. Wherein a person subscribes to the Social Security Benefits thereby he/she waives their rights to the foregoing only to the extent as is necessary in keeping the society that is enrolled in it viable."

    I have a hard time following this, I think it needs a total rewrite. Not quite able to disagree or agree with the content, as it seems too terse and vague.

    Per religion and the religious, there needs to be greater clarity everywhere it is mentioned. I believe in the separation of church and state, but I'm for religious freedom. Just not in any way connected with the state; it should be a purely extra-Plan affair. I hope we agree there. So I don't know what happens to people in the clergy; are they opt-outs? Are they supported by their flock, ie, do they consume time credits supplied by the organization's members?

    I hope this helps. I would welcome the chance to review a more matured document, and I hope others will lend you their time, insight and support.
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    Jul 21 2012: You have clearly placed a lot of time and thought in this. It yet remains more outline than form, but I agree you have to get the idea out at some point, then continually massage it with ongoing consideration and feedback. I myself would not mind at all seeing the 1+99% diffused into a smoothed-out total. There are multiple radical notions at simultaneous play here, but I find the overall message acceptable, with noted concerns below. But I am a dreamer and possibly the only one to give serious consideration here. I hope not. We all need to start somewhere, even if this mutates considerably. We need radical change, pretty much all across the board.

    Let's start with this statement: "Successful entrepreneurs shall additionally receive a personal housekeeper." I find this alienating, especially as I haven't absorbed the whole idea yet while reading about it. I think it could serve as an example for time-credit exchange, later in the document.

    "...isolationist and support him/herself..." I don't understand how an opt-out can survive entirely outside The Plan. How do they create Plan-external value, and how do these efforts translate into credited time, which is effectively the new negotiable instrument replacing money?

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