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Dyed All Hues

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If someone you knew was a pathological truth-teller; how would you react to this person?

Most of you have probably hear the term "pathological liar", meaning they lie all the time, from dusk til dawn. We all lie though, but too much lies can ruin any relationship. If there was no lies, but pure truth 24/7 360days a year for the rest of that persons' life, how would you react to this person?

Some have argued with me that we need lies to live for example, 'your best friends mother on her death bed asks you where her son is, and you couldn't tell her that her son has just died on an air plane that blew up just before landing, so you lie and tell her that his flight was cancelled and he says he loves you very much and you fill in the blanks with fond memories....now let's change that situation a bit....

Your best friend mother on her death bed asks for her son, but you know he just died on that exploding plane, so you give her the low down and tell her that his flight didn't make it here because his plane blew up, though he really loves you and he told me this before we got off the phone.

Two scenarios, both end the same, she passes away, but the details may be different depending on the individual.

A pathological truth-teller doesn't blurt things out though, like if they see something/someone they hate, they won't go I hate that thing over there and then proceed to tell the thing or person they hate it/them, though if they were asked to give an opinion they would tell the truth.

If you asked this person a question, they would answer you extremely truthfully and at times it might even seem offensive. For instance, you ask them "do I look good in this" and the pathological truth-teller says "it looks hideous on you, but you already tried all the clothes in this store and they all don't look good on you, so let's go to a store with a different style?".

How would you react to this person?

Update: This is a scenario of a world with pathological truth tellers.



Closing Statement from Dyed All Hues

All I could think of is "thank you for participating and hope the remnance of this discussion will shed light upon your life", though this topic is far from reaching any type of consensus; we can all strive to respect one another and live earnestly and honestly.

May you take positive leaps and bounds in your life.

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    Jun 30 2012: Who knowse the truth ? What can be true for me, it not necessarely the truth for someone else !

    For the purpose of this discussion, I will start by saying : Ouff, a bit rough to be a "pathalogical truth teller or a pathalogical-liar".

    I believe in telling the truth all the way, so you don't have to remember, what you told this person last time, and keep the lie going on, you can become mentally ill...to much to process, unhealthy etc.

    It's all depends on how you tell the truth. If this pathalogical truth teller you talking about, is more of a person that consciously hurt other people feelings, for his or her own purpose of feeling better about his or herself, who need these people...they can eat grass, as far that I know!

    On the other hand, if you are telling me truth to help me grow, change for the best of whom I can become, I can deal with it better...furthermore, this pathalogical truth teller, has to be able, to listen the truth about him or herself to, it as to be a two ways streets. I you want to tell ME my truths, you better be able to ear YOUR truths from me! It's a give and take situation here!!

    At the end, it's all about a good dosage in everything, and also, if you can send it, you better be able to receive it!!
    • Jun 30 2012: Sorry but the truth does not change from person to person Only perception changes. People of faith often make the argument of truth being different from one person to the next. They must catch themselves and distinguish between finite, knowable, practical truth of verifiable reality and "ultimate truths" which address unknowable origins. Truth is what law and science exist on and thus what makes civilization possible. Belief in super-nature does not make it a truth. If even one miracle were true, it is likely society would not have advanced at all because everyone would be held in place by belief and superstitions in which there would be more worry about offending the miracle granter than rolling up one's sleeves and engineering solutions to problems.
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        Jun 30 2012: You don't have to be sorry James!! That's your point of view and it's the truth for you, but I'll stick to mine!

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        Jul 1 2012: I don't know James, truth can differ from person to person through life experiences.

        For example, one person might think the truth that vanilla ice cream is the best flavor in the world to ever be invented, then another person comes by and yells that strawberry ice cream is the best flavor in the world. Another scenario has already been played out, like the holocaust. One group of individual believe the truth that their race was superior and they were mandated by a higher calling to wipe the earth of other races; I personally don't believe that is the truth, do you?
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          Jul 3 2012: I think this needs more considertion, Derek. You have gone back to colloquial uses of the word truth. Perhaps you need to define "truth for us and for yourself. For me it means the actual events of the situation which indicates that perspective is something different. The problem with your explanation is that there is no verfiiable fact regarding the "truth" of the taste of icecream. It is simply a sensory experience that is sifted through a unique set of tastebuds and through a unique brain to reach a conclusion Not a truth.

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