Peter Emer

The Lil Project

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Does science and our desire to know everything sometimes devalue the experience of life?

In the 1970s, the U.S government supported and funded a project in which scientists tried to create headless humans so that the body parts of these "humans" can be used as organ donors. Now the project failed but just the audacity that we would attempt something that could single handedly destroy what it means to live and survive is mindbottling to me. What do you all think?

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    May 25 2011: "But should you let the mind control itself without any boundaries?"

    Personally, I do not believe in duality of the 'mind' and (one's) self. There is only mind, thus mind completely controls the human.


    "There's social influence involved, there's also other things introduced by civilization that play a role in the framing of one's mind."

    Precisely my point.

    I also do not believe one can consciously impose boundaries on the mind. The 'boundaries' are the '(social) environment'. As scientific experiments are performed in controlled environments (the boundaries), 'experiments' of the mind can be seen to be carried out in society.

    Is society not a controlled environment?

    I'm curious. What made you start this discussion?
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      May 29 2011: Hmmmm, The mind is a very intricate place. And i do believe one can frame themselves using society. I see society as a tool to manipulate the mind more than anything. It's through society that one can control the mind.

      "i also do not believe one can consciously impose boundaries on the mind" - isnt that how people change who they once where by controlling certain aspects of their mind?

      I think what i question about "Is the mind not performing scientific experimentation?" is that what you are saying here is everything we do is an experiment by the mind....well just like everything we choose not to do would be an experiment of the mind too. Right now i am thinking, science sometimes touches on things that it shouldnt (thats the mind performing an experiment?)

      I decided to start this discussion because i was so appalled that anyone would fund the production of headless humans. I am a believer of Natural Selection and i think us as a people have managed to destroy that completely and it saddens me. What do you think about Natural Selection?
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    Apr 18 2011: Any level of human curiosity serves as a catalyst, fueling desire to experience all possible experiences available to human physiological and psychological form. The mind unconsciously memorizes all perceived phenomena, memories are easier to recall if perceived phenomena is repeatedly experienced thus consciously documented as fact.

    Is the mind not performing scientific experimentation?

    In actuality, science in the form of a discipline is no different from human experience.

    I think life is a science and science is increasingly becoming life.
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      May 25 2011: I never thought about it in that light. I see what you mean, but even though the mind gives us the desires through science, it also gives us the capability to decide on those desires. In a simplest example, if a person drives insane and you have that little instance where you completely lose it and want to destroy that person, from your view of point, the mind is performing science. But should you let the mind control itself without any boundaries? If this situation, you would most likely go to jail if you acted on it. I guess my point is that the situation is much more complex than to just close the discussion with "the mind is performing science", There's social influence involved, there's also other things introduced by civilization that play a role in the framing of one's mind.
  • Mar 15 2011: not if you get to play with it