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STEM education is all the rage, while the arts and humanities are being vilified. Will this make us better humans?

Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics education are supported in media, school board meetings, and the dinner table while the arts and humanities are dismissed as no longer significant or relevant to our 'growth' and prosperity. Many scientific and educational leaders have referred to the study of humanities in universities as 'a waste of time' and an 'affectation' no longer a 'luxury we can afford'. International competitiveness is often cited as the motivation. When we look at those four disciplines, do you think they will make us better humans, and lead us to where we want to go, without the accompanying study of the humanities and arts? If so, how? If not, why not?

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    Jul 4 2012: I might be acdcused of wanting it all but look at the decline in health wgen phys. ed went. The people who put together these processes were not stupid. They did many good things for a reason and where the research has improved and taught us new things these things should beincorporated. If people in the past understood the need for arts and liberal studies we should at least hear them out.
  • Jun 22 2012: STEM professionals have become disconnected with the philosophical foundation upon which their professions are built. Their ignorance wastes a lot of their energy. If they knew intellectual history and evolution of philosophical thought that led to the frame of reference they now hold, they wouldn't waste nearly as much energy when discussing science with the public. Science attempts to maintain a modern-level of thought while excising anything considered obsolete, while the public may hold on to concepts that may be thousands of years old. Understanding the points of departure is critical.

    Any scientist that does not know the former precedent of the evolution debate is actually ignorant of science at large. How many scientists know where empiricism comes from or the circumstances under which it was born (without looking it up)? I would argue that it would be better for general students to take classes in intellectual history and DOE than an actual science class, and maybe require math history before taking an actual math class. Instead of STEM education being a grind that eliminates the unworthy, it can become a way of providing genuine scientific literacy to our whole society.
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      Jun 22 2012: Thanks for responding. So am I correct in understanding that you hold that we, and students of STEM, have no need for the arts and humanities, just an historical understanding of the origins and developmet of STEM?
      • Jun 22 2012: You first need to understand the predominant world view at the time science was born, which requires some exposure to the humanities. Then to understand the crises that brought about the birth of science, how it was resolved, and the fundamental problems that still exist to this day; like what is the end goal of science? It would also help if STEM professionals understand what role the arts and humanities has in our society, and how to communicate with people who are not schooled in rational thought (it's the vast majority of humanity).

        I've taken astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, and geology; all of the natural sciences, plus data analysis; and it wasn't until after college when I happened upon a course in intellectual history that I truly understood science. If we could redesign science education, I'd require that intellectual history and the history of mathematics be taught first, so as to create context for everything that follows. I'd also require that the learning that takes place within each field uses the scientific method for acquiring concepts - learning by proof (similar to geometry). Ideally students should start with a 17th century world view, and through experimentation make their way to modern times. Also along the way, there should be some false starts so that students aren't conditioned to always expecting positive results. Sometimes skepticism is warranted. In this way, no one is memorizing sets of facts and figures, and people are free to challenge and preserve skeptical inquiry required in good science. This would also be good training ground for writing scientific papers to share results.

        Hopefully in the process of verifying the reliability of past experiments, we may discover new insights.
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          Jun 22 2012: Absolutely fantastic. Thank you for a very detailed and thorough explanation. The perspective is very interesting and presents a point of view I had not previously been exposed to. So thanks for that. I particularily appreciate the 'bridging' reference between science and A&H and the significance of their different roles. You inferred they are not mutually exclusive and each has a role in the full human experience, and they build on each other. Such a balanced approach is very refreshing. Thanks again.
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    Jun 21 2012: RH, Good to talk to you again. Two factors always drive the ship. Money and national pride. The PISA exams showed the US in the lower part of the Bottom third of the 89 countries who participated (national pride bashed). STEM are the money makers and where the job market directs education to go. We are still the basic Bismark system of education of the 1700's directed by industry and military needs. Secondary schools are in budget crunches as education has been the target of budget cuts so where do they elect to cut. Our cut list includes band, art, shop, some sports, field trips, etc .. with a big get back to basics (STEM) emphasis.

    If examined closely all subjects stem from the same base. In music, art, science, engineering, everywhere is the influence of the GOLDEN NUMBER - PHI 1.618. I have found that most of our honor graduates are well rounded. They are involved in music, sports, core curriculum and are interesting well rounded people. Little bores me more than a one subject expert who does not notice the rest of the world going by.

    Perhaps there is a need for pre-university mandate of Liberal Arts College. The last President who endowed the Arts was Kennedy. Since then TV, cheap novels, rap music, and other deterrents to good taste have invaded our society. To eliminate these infleneces is to endorse the alternative.

    Summary: Make litature, music, art, and the arts fun. Come down from the ivory tower and enjoy the moment. We need to maintain these to be truely rounded and complete. Is this anothe dark age? Maybe we need to study what and why that happened and the results to understand where we are and where we are going.

    All the best. Bob.
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      Jun 22 2012: Thanks for responding. and hello to you! So you are holding that the arts and humanities are necessary to complement STEM education for a well-rounded student, correct?
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    Jun 21 2012: I don't believe that the arts are villified in the culture. I think there is burgeoning interest in all manner of maker skills and that the visual, whether in technology, recreation, or advertisement, is central in the way culture is evolving.

    I think, though, that there may be a wave of interest in doing art in a self-taught way or through technological applications rather than through formal instruction in, say, painting.
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      Jun 22 2012: Thanks for responding. I see what you're saying about 'creativity' in all manner of disciplines, and the widening self-taught and digital creative applications in our culture. I meant in my question to be more education specific though. There is much evidence to support that education is becoming more concentrative in the STEM disciplines than the arts and humanities. I have read more than one scientist or educational leader refer to kids studying art and humanities as 'a waste of time' because we need them to get jobs. From that perspective of the education of students, do you think they are correct, and will this be sufficient education for them? Thanks.
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        Jun 22 2012: I understand what you are saying. I also know that one can find people of any background or level of education who have supported just about any position. Sometimes it is a minority position among people in their disciplines and so a problem to generalize from it.
        When I was young great proportions of kids did not take nearly as much math or science or foreigh language as the rest of us did. They took something called business math while the rest took algebra and further. They took life science and then stopped, while those presumed to be college bound took at least a year and often several of physical science. This made one group prepared for college and the other not prepared for work or further education that required quantitative literacy. To some this felt like sorting young people very soon and almost irreparably.
        I believe the interest in increasing the demands for math and physical science is an equity issue that tries to secure for all children a basic level of literacy that fotmerly was reserved for what some might call the elite.
        Meanwhile, I live in a state that is very miserly about expenditures on public education. What I have seen over the years is less formal training in studio art, perhaps than in my childhood in the Los Angeles Unified School District but a much higher level of participation in music. The graduation requirements, the minimum level one must take of studio art and of music is, in fact, no less than in my childhood. And the incorporation of art and visual representions post grade school in courses across the curriculum is much higher than in my youth.
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          Jun 22 2012: Thank you very much for this further response. So true that one can find support for any view, and just because there's support doesn't mean it's valid. I hope the positive dynamics you're currently witnessing are not on the wane, and that we don't revert to those who 'can afford' a well-rounded education get one, and those who can't are taught only tools for productivity and agenda fulfillment. Thanks again.
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        Jun 22 2012: I always appreciate, RH, the thoughts you put forward.
        There was an editorial today in my local paper on a related topic. The author addressed the issue that is sometimes raised now in relation to budgetary short-falls of rethinking the assumption of "college for everyone."
        The author writes "Posing the question of college for all is a connivance. The people raising the issue are talking about your kids, not theirs. Do they truly have cosmic doubts about the value of a college degree? Perhaps for others, but not regarding the economic and social value of their own credentials- and , of course, for their kids."
        If rigorous math and science education were not being pushed, the children of the highly educated will be getting solid grounding in those subjects anyway on their ways not necessarily to careers in science, engineering, or technology, but to having the option to pursue those fields. Part of universal education through grade twelve is about making sure all kids have a chance to learn the things that are sometimes hardest to learn anywhere else and that open the most doors.
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    Jun 21 2012: I think all the greatest businesses and innovations come from people who have gone through all the science, technology and engineering aspects of a topic, - but then made the difference by giving everything a cultural twist.

    Take Apple, the world's most valued company. They offer computers and phones. But it's their image and the cultural shift they created, which adds the value.

    Furthermore: all important technologies and scientific breakthroughs face philosphical, social and cultural questions. Scientists and technologists themselves don't have good answers. It's the philosophers and thinkers from the humanities who formulate the best answers.

    In short, I think a real "university" education should be just that: creating people who have a universal view on things - like a homo universalis - apt at formulating good ideas on a range of topics. The urge to generate expert-slaves is disastrous. A geek without knowledge of some broader issues is a slave to technocrats and capitalists. Nothing more.
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      Jun 22 2012: Thanks for your clear commentary. Although STEM education is important and a reality, it must be counter-balanced with cultural, sociological, and philosophical understandings for impact and application. Also, without such counter-balancing, the student runs the risk of becoming 'drone-like' and unawares - a cog to be 'plugged in' to the designs of others. So the arts and humanities education are critical to develop fully functioning humans, and not to be discounted. Thanks again.
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        Jul 4 2012: That's hitting the nail on the head, RH. In the rush to create a super-machine of STEM-my awesomeness, everyone needs to have the education and ability to step back and ask what we should or shouldn't be doing with that super-machinery.
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    Jun 21 2012: It's a sign of the times, we are becoming more technological and all the STEM sectors are the fastest growing sectors in today's society, there is a shortage of engineers in NI and it is being promoted heavily, I think science is to grow by 18% each year in the UK and there was something like 37,000 more jobs in 2011 for science than there was in 2010. These are the subjects which are making the money and making breakthroughs and so you can see why there is so much economic growth in these areas.
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      Jun 22 2012: Thanks for responding. Do you think, though, that students studying STEM subjects have a need to also to have an understanding (study) of the arts and humanities to be a better human, or does the STEM education provide all they need?
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        Jun 22 2012: Well to be a better human you need to start seeing ourselves in a different way and yes I agree with you that the arts can cause this change, but I wouldn't make a STEM student study the arts. For example, music can move people and they don't even have to study the song or get into the deeper meanings of the lyrics to feel moved by it, so for STEM students maybe have the arts as a hobby.
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          Jun 22 2012: Ok. Thanks again!