- sarah boardman-miller
- Milwaukee, WI
- United States
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Is there 'Perfect'?
One of the themes that has been running the past year is creating 'Perfect'.
Creating Perfect....for me. What does that look like, how does it feel, when does it intersect with.......everything? What can you create in your life, to be in your optimal operating state to be at your best...most creative?
As if one is meditating and gently bringing oneself back to the meditation as the mind wanders and talks to itself.....you are gently bringing yourself back to your 'Perfect Practice'.....that optimal operating state.
Would love to hear if you think it is completely bunk, if you live in the OOS and are creating that perfect place and what that looks like.
Debra Smith 200+
Gail . 50+
sarah boardman-miller
When I watch, read, listen to Elizabeth Gilbert talk about her journey, there were many limiting beliefs cast off so that she could get to that place to write and live.
Reggie Watts....wow, watching and listening to him create is truly magical. When he is in that 'perfect'-that optimal operating state it flows from his brain/heart to his hands.
edward long 100+
1) Although possibly wrong, my assumption is that Sarah's question is meant for humans on Earth. My comment was not, therefore, directed at other lifeforms on Earth or on any other celestial body. I do not agree that that means I am "not talking about truth" as you say.
2) I disagree with your assertion that "truth creates human points of view." I myself have mistakenly embraced many points of view which I eventually discovered to be not based on truth. There is no necessary connection between Truth and people's points of view.
3) You are correct that there is no such thing as subjective Truth. There is however a widely accepted rhetorical tool where truth is characterized as either subjective (The speed limit is 55mph.), or objective (Speed limits should be observed.).
4) You introduce a new question which I do not recognize, "how can they be said to be imperfections?"
5) I categorically disagree with your assertion that "death is also perfect. Without it there can be no life." Eternal life is the very basis of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Death is the ultimate imperfection.
So, what is your answer to Sarah's question? Thank you!
Mark Meijer 100+
1) You may be right, but on the other hand, Sarah's question was broadly formulated. And since you introduced truth, and also mixed it with a human point of view, I figured I'd chip in. For whatever it's worth.
2) Right, I didn't mean to say that a human point of view is based on truth in that sense (although your argument about truth still seems to depend on point of view, despite subsequent contradictions). What I meant is that truth does not depend on any point of view. If we can take your above reference to the eternal life to indicate truth, then that is the seed for any point of view, so to speak. The absolute from which the relative emerges. That's what I meant when I said that truth (the absolute) creates the human point of view (the relative), instead of the other way around as you seem to suggest.
3) Ok, but I'm not sure we're talking about truth at all when talking about truth being "characterized" as anything, because that immediately indicates dependence on point of view, which truth can't be.
Mark Meijer 100+
4) Yes I introduced that question so as to say what my answer would be to Sarah's question ;). Whatever is the way it is and couldn't be any other way, whether anyone considers certain parts of it imperfect or not. So what is really imperfect about it, if that's just the way things are and there's nothing you can do to change it? In other words, in that sense, for lack of imperfection, yes there is perfect and it's everything already. It can't be created and it can't be destroyed. Although that begs the question, perfect as opposed to what? So in truth (beyond point of view) that distinction is also meaningless. But if we have to judge it one way or another, perfect is a better fit than flawed. Reality can't be flawed, or it wouldn't be.
5) Eternal life (if that's what you prefer to call it) is already here, always was and always will be. What we consider as individual lives are integral expressions of that. You are already eternal life, even if your individual expression of it is subject to change. Individual life is contingent on individual death, for example other life has died for you to feed on, and some day when you die other life will feed on you. It can't be otherwise. But death is relative to an individual life, nothing truely dies in the absolute sense. There was life before I was born, and there will be life after I die. And I mean life in the broadest sense imaginable. So you are mixing up the individual point of view with the absolute again. You can't think of eternal life as being subject to imperfection, or else how could it be eternal? Note that eternal means timeless. Death happens in time, the eternal does not. Death can't touch that which you call eternal life (and I call truth).
edward long 100+
Mark Meijer 100+
Sincerely,
Mark
Robert Winner 50+
All the best. Bob.
Bernard Seremonia
Relatively, when someone has ability to use for both of eyes, in this case, someone is perfect in using eyes, because the two eyes can be activated to see images, but if we ask for how good for both of our eyes capturing images? The answer may lead to the fact that our eyes may not full functional as it should be compared to others.
To make a better understanding that most of people misunderstood, about God is perfect. Perfect God means, God should be able to implement God's possibilities as realities, (whether we consider it as good or bad, but since those are part of God's abilities, it should be realized, because God is perfect).
Perfect is not related to specific ability of all possibilities that could be realized, but precisely asserts that all possibilities that could be realized, must be able to be realized.
edward long 100+
sarah boardman-miller
Digging a little deeper, what is the practice/truth that helps you...guides you through life to be the most creative, the most industrious...the best?
For some it might simply be accepting that there will be bumps/mountains along the way and to navigate them as best as you can.
I watched Prof Larry Smith speak on getting a great career...and his awesome list of excuses of why one would not have one.
Most people are content with good...not perfect.
edward long 100+
Mark Meijer 100+
So the question you were trying to answer remains: "Are there imperfections which cannot be avoided or gotten rid of?" And if there are, how can they be said to be imperfections? Death is also perfect. Without it, there can be no life. It's also not something that can be gotten rid of. Whether humans on earth would consider it an imperfection has no bearing on truth whatsoever.
Barry Palmer 50+
I am not a perfect person. I am a perfect Barry Palmer.