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How should birthday be calculated

Its been a fashion to celeberate "Born day" as our " Birthday " which is introduced by the english men which is not at all our birthday.

Science says that a day has 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4.1 seconds and NOT 24 Hours and similarly a year has 365.25 days only and NOT 365 days which itself is wrong (both these are invented by Aryabatta an Indian ) Since we dont know the exact date in which the earth was formed and thereby we can't
predict when a year is completed but still we can say that this particular date is our " Birthday " with the help of science .

The zodiac according to science comprises of 360 degrees. There are 27 Nakshatras or constellations in it.

Therefore, the value of each constellation is 13 degrees and 20 minutes when measured from the fixed initial point. These 27 Nakshatras (stars) complete the entire circle of 360 degrees of the zodiac. A forecast based on the transit/ correlation/inter - relation of planets in relation to the Nakshatras is more accurate than the results predicted on the basis of any other system.

The term " Nakshatra " (sanskrit word) can be splitted accordingly " naks " means sky and "shetra" meaning region.Another translation is derived by using a different analysis , it says "Naksha" means Map and "tara" is Star and so " Nakshatra " is Star map . Both these meaning clearly bring out the significance of the 27 Nakshatras or constellations . since ancient times moon were used for calculating time and connecting to the stars. Nakshatras is the name given to the constellations or mansions of the moon, as moon resides in each of the constellations for one day and hence that day is considered as your Birthday.
For example if a person is born on December 25 means we need to note the "Nakshatra" and suppose if he is born under "Ashwini " nakshatra means therby whenever the month december follows in a year the day in which "Ashwini" nakshatra falls in that month will be considered as birthday,since that one year will be complete

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    Debra Smith 200+

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    Jul 12 2012: My opinion is your first birthsay or 'anniversaire' en Francais is the one year anniversary that celebrates a person's birth.

  • Joshua Sisk

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    Jul 7 2012: I propose we should update time to a universal definition and equation LIKE...

    TIME is the accumulative association of mass amount of data to a single point in three-dimensional space that can be navigated with two longitudinal positions of a sphere to evaluate future or past events. In-order to tell the current time using this definition we must use our first known planetary verifiable data point and calculate up to our current longitudinal position using time's new mathematical equation.

    Time = (the circumference of the of the object measured x the distance between two longitudes) + or - ((the circumference of the of the object measured / 360) x inert longitudinal distance you desire to travel)..... NOTE: that the distance between the two longitudes must result in a positive number and the inert longitudinal distance assumes 360 degrees equals a full day.This remedial equation can easily be expanded to the point of accuracy that the observer wants to express his data point connection to the universe.

    When light is removed the only means of measurement is motion or inert distance. Inert distance is expressed as accelerated or decelerated distance in relation to your current longitudinal position. Understanding that objects in space are in constant motion due to planetary, solar system, and galaxy rotation allows time to be imagined as a spinning linear line made of many single point of mass data connections on a x,y,z map.

    In an equation time is inert or accelerated/decelerated distance starting and ending at a single points and when express as an action/process then time is motion. Time is a measurement system not a thing or object.

    The experience of time can be described as the now or the moment we make the mental connection of mass data accumulated from all sense to the documented location of the x,y,z in space. The perception is the accuracy of the data that is being recalled/recorded from any specific point.

  • Robert Beckman

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    Jun 20 2012: The Gregorian Calendar is actually slightly more complex than what most people think. To account for the fact that a year is not exactly 365.25 days (and is 365.2425 days) we skip a leap year three out of every four centennials. The year 1900 was not a leap year and the year 2100 and 2200 will not be a leap year, but 2000 was. This amounts to 97 leap years in a 400 year span, and if you do the math ((97*366)+(303*365)) = 365.2425 or 365 days 5 hours 49 minutes 12 seconds.

    Also note that a mean solar second is slightly different from an SI second. Leap seconds account for this difference.

    Adding that knowledge to your pool, I'll let you decide which system you think is better.

    • Anantha Subramanian

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      Jun 29 2012: Robert

      wat u said is i accept .. this is according to Gregorian Calendar .. and i here my topic is regarding on the calculation of the birthday .. but i dont see anything similar to my conversation .. it is pretty confusing .. can u pls send me some link on this so that i can learn more .. Thank you
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    Robert Winner 50+

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    Jun 14 2012: You only have one birthday (the day of your birth) everything else is an anniversary.

    All the best. Bob.

    • Anantha Subramanian

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      Jun 16 2012: I accept wat u said .. even i thought of putting the same as my title but i don't want to divulge in what i am trying to say .. so i just ignored that ..
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    Mohammad Tauheed 500+

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    Jun 14 2012: If you only follow the moon and nakshatra your birthday may fall into different seasons, it may be in summer or winter. That's the reason I don't think it's very logical follow that system. I want my birthday to be in the spring every year, I don't want it in the middle of summer.
    Also I knew there are 36 nakshatras not 27, three nakshatras on each Zodiac, 3x12=36. I did not hear about 27 naksgatras before!
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    Diana Pierce

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    Jun 14 2012: Should all go well, most of us are roughly nine months old when are birthed. Should we not have our annual age calculated by our gestation period plus three months if we have the average nine month gestation? A premature child born early could still calculate their more correct age using a similar calculation. Just think of the chaos for actuaries and governmental bodies. I'm smiling just thinking about it. Based on using the birth date as the indicator of actual age, if a person lives to be 77 years old, they are actually 77 years and nine months.

    • Anantha Subramanian

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      Jun 16 2012: Normally a person will come to know that they are pregnant only after 3 months .. and at that time a baby is not formed fully it will look like a BACTERIA ... and since that bacteria needs to develop into a baby it will take nine months .. and once the baby is developed fully means it comes out of the vagina ... and thereby we calculate the day in which the baby comes out only after fully it is developed .. the best example is after the election results were announced u will calculate 4 or 5 years of period only after he comes into the position .. and we wont calculate that small span of time were he/she will be waiting for another person to come down from that position and that's the way we go ..

  • Brendan McKenna

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    Jun 13 2012: Birthdays should not be calculated. They are a terrible way to label someone as able or unable. Example, voting: there are 16 year olds who are more informed and knowledgeable than 18 year olds.

    • Anantha Subramanian

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      Jun 16 2012: Hi Brendan ,

      I am saying abt " How birthday shud be calculated " and if a person don't want to say the AGE means better don't say it .. it depends one's own view and moreover it may be helpful to us in many ways ...

      Example : Birth Certificate is the indication that we are born in this country , place , hospital , date , time etc ..

      And it is a huge plus for a citizen of one country and yeah if one's age is 16 means that person is treated as minor even though he/she is matured tats the way it is one cannot be given with all the responsibilities at the young age .. Example : Even though if a person is matured enough to handle things at the age of 20 he/she is not given the President or Minister post ... jus coz they need to learn a lot .. and that's how it goes ..

  • Anantha Subramanian

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    Jun 13 2012: Hi Edward ,

    I don't know much about Cesium atom .. can u pls elaborate because .. these things which i wrote is already mentioned in Hinduism in Rig veda some 6000 years back .. and since it is science i wrote .. can u pls elaborate on Cesium atom and how it acts as a base for measuring time ? .. Thank u
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      edward long 100+

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      Jun 13 2012: Rig veda has the benefit, and difficulty, of being 6000 years-old. Technology advances as Time marches on. Perhaps you will find the link helpful in understanding the marvelously complex, yet beautifully simple, Atomic Clock. Enjoy!
      http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cesium.html

      • Anantha Subramanian

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        Jun 13 2012: Thanks edward learnt a lot from that link .. and yea Atomic clock are the most accurate time and frequency standards known .. but what i m trying to say is even without this technology many indians were celebrating birthday by following a calender " Panchaankam " (sanskrit calender) which involves lots of science like full moon , new moon , Nakshatras , planet positions and many more .. Even though the technology advances science remains the same ..
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          edward long 100+

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          Jun 13 2012: You have every right to be proud of the significant contributions your people have made, and continue to make, to world technology and science. I do not think you will succeed in replacing the global (almost global?) convention of celebrating one's birthday on the month and day one was born. But, I have been wrong before, so do not give up on my account. Thank you!
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    edward long 100+

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    Jun 13 2012: The natural vibration rate of a Cesium atom is the basis for measuring Time. Nakashatra must comply to the Cesium atom. If it does not, it is inaccurate as a measure of Time. We humans have a convention which measures our Time on Earth in years. A year is the amount of Time needed for an exact number of vibrations of a Cesium atom to occur. If the Cesium clock is started at the moment of recorded birth, the first birthday will occur when the Cesium atom has vibrated the prescribed number of times correlating to one year.
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    peter lindsay 30+

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    Jun 13 2012: I have been breathing for 44 orbits plus 54.21 degrees. It seams fairly accurate to me.
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    Sander de Koning

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    Jun 12 2012: Didn't we already correct for that with the leap year?
    I think it doesn't really matter that much if it's a bit off, it's just an indication of how long a person has been around.

    • Anantha Subramanian

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      Jun 13 2012: Hi Sander,

      Leap year came just to adjust the time span i mean the .25 days in a year .. but birthday differs person to person as nakshatra falls on different day in each year.. and yeah its an indication of how long a person has been around but .. fact is fact .. wat is said today is WRONG .. u accept ?
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        Sander de Koning

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        Jun 14 2012: The nakshatra system is probably more acurate, I never really looked into it, but for me it doesn't have a practical advantage to use one over the other for determining my birthday.
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