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Standard gun owner belief: if all were armed with the potential of deadly force, the incident of gun violence would decrease.

If we all were armed, with the potential of deadly force; i.e. we all had guns and we knew how to safely employ and use them, there would be a downward pressure on those that would commit potentially deadly crimes with guns. Statistics would eventually prove this and society would be a safer place as a result.

Science should be able to be aplied to the issue to give some kind of factual spin.

Old West tales implicate that this is true. With the reality of lawlessnes the legend and history suggest existed as the US expanded west, there was always the element of fear as you encountered an unknown person(s).

Would we be better off with or without the potential of returning instaneous death upon those that intend to kill with impudency?

Would the incidence of occurance decrease or increase with the means available to all?

Are we talking about a static statistic? Has the rate of incidence been effectively the same throughout historical recordings, when has it risen, fell, why?

Given that TED challenges the best minds, mine being feeble by comparison, I am also a proud gun owner, plus a defender of my fellow man, where does the scientific community sit? Man seems to be man's greatest impedement to progress. The potential of one man, one small group, and one large group to inflict great harm upon others, even in massive numbers, seems to be the largest hurdle to progression of the human species. Other ideas seem to indicate that a form of population control is in order, disease, genocide, wars, etc. I disagree. But I am not a scientist, great thinker or even have appropriate facts. But as a person who believes in his right to defend himself against insanity, where does this fit into humanity's potential?

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    Jun 15 2012: nothing special. just came across this

    http://i.imgur.com/CmZKA.jpg

    not an argument, just felt like sharing
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      Jun 16 2012: Hi......My well read and thoughtful friend. It doesn't protect innocent people from killing innocent people. Not arguing (:>)
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        Jun 16 2012: She said with the know best attitude to which we have become accustom from academia.
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          Jun 16 2012: Hey! I'm from academia too! And you can read what I think down further on this post. (Just giving you some grief my friend:)
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          Jun 17 2012: @Pat, 'the know best attitude ... from academia', instead of what? Total head-in-the-sand ignorance?
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          Jun 17 2012: How about:
          Real world experience
          Cultivated street smarts
          Apriori rational thought
          Intuition
          Investigative analysis
          Those are just a sample.
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        Jun 16 2012: Linda you come from a different flavor of academia than I'm accustom, which is why I gave your post a thumbs up.
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        Jun 17 2012: Hi Joanne

        I don't think we agree on anything and this is another example.

        My perspective is that no matter what the subject it all boils down to application. Real knowledge comes from application. This applies to everything technology that came from the space program came from landing a man on the moon, knowledge from a college education comes from being able to Do something, this creates an instant test of your knowledge which is can you Do it or not?

        My complaint about the "know best or now your suppose to's or academia is that they have removed themselves from the application and put themselves in a position of authority which is typically not merited. This is a pathology typical of socialism.

        Like I said I doubt we will ever agree on anything.
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          Jun 17 2012: Pat....I am getting notices of posts that you address to Linda and Joanne. My name is Helen
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        Jun 17 2012: Hi Helen

        I disagree with your disposition on this subject. It demonstrates a perfunctory ideology that does not work. Additionally I bristle when people infer or suggest (rarely is it plainly spoken) that they know better than the other fellow as it manifests an attitude of disrespect and arrogance.

        Understand that I differentiate between you and your views. As I expect you to do the same for me, I have been using guns since I was a child and am an intelligent responsible individual.
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          Jun 17 2012: This is Helen, Pat. What is going on with you ? I addressed my post to Kristian and if you will notice I said it was just a thought and I was not arguing. Chill out, OK ?
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        Jun 17 2012: Helen

        You addressed me, apparently I misunderstood your comment?

        Ok, have a nice day

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