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Are there any recognized Atheist organizations currently involved in any social aid, amnesty groups, hunger relief efforts etc...?
There seems to be the belief going around that mankind would be better off without any deference to faith or guidance from ideals assimilated from sources outside atheist paradigms.
Please speak up and give compassionate Atheists the recognition they deserve.
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Wayne Busby 30+
Wayne Busby 30+
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Disambiguation: "Religion, a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe".
"people who are atheists "have" diverse moral values and norms. They only share one thing in common, they don't believe in a higher concsious power." again " only share one thing in common, they don't believe in a higher concsious power". Sorry Budimir, This is ideology.
Brother I only suggest that you be aware of what you worship.
Me: It is always an act of God when Humanity starts consolidating towards the "collaborative efforts of human beings regardless of creeds." and you again Sister Birdia.
The issue for me is simple; what are we collaborating towards?
The Doctors are in, so Physicians heal thy selves and help me diagnose the rest of our problem..
Symptoms and impression:
1)What does it mean when instead of answering a question one becomes evasive, hesitant, hostile, willfully ignorant, condescending, lost.. we need to agree on our language because we don't have time time to waste.
2)How can someone who refuses, or is unable to acknowledge the full constructive content of an open dialogue between common people, expect to understand the Infinite Glory of our Father of Gods?
I am in that same boat with you.
3)"Your paradigm is your paradigm only, thus, has no effect on the principles of humanitarianism." This is your paradigm Birdia, so how exactly does it apply to you? Do you matter?? Do you really think I don't???
More importantly, "the principles of humanitarianism" are perfectly in line with my paradigm, so I must be having some good effect.
4)How can something born deny the existence of a Father?
It is a little mind that glorifies its self because it can - at will - manipulate the time and space of things smaller than itself. It is this same mind than cannot support the idea of something bigger willfully manipulating it.
This is sounding like some chronic mental illness.
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Wayne Busby 30+
This is also the Humanitarian ethic which has been evolving, yet historically and universally has the common element of no distinction being made in the face of human suffering or abuse on grounds of gender, sexual orientation, tribal, caste, religious or national divisions. Wiki.
To answer your question I am one of those people who, perhaps like you matter enough to provide through our example clear meaning and direction to the concept.
Just wanted to remind you that what and how you communicate throughout these conversation will be immortalized when the talk is closed. Which makes editing yourself quite difficult.
Zdenek Smith 100+
You posted:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Disambiguation: "Religion, a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe".
Religion, according to Wikipedia, "is a belief of some superhuman power or powers, in particular a god or gods..."
How can Atheism be a Religion?
Also note that Atheism is not worship since "Worship is an act of religious devotion usually directed to one or more deities."
"The issue for me is simple; what are we collaborating towards?"
We are collaborating towards more just and free society, better life and greater understanding of the Universe.
We are not constrained but any ideologies or beliefs but rather we learn and improve by using products of science and social studies through experiments, observations and rational thinking.
Wayne Busby 30+
Disambiguation: "Religion, a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe". Ergo Atheism is a Religion.
According to your own post Atheism can be described as "an act of religious devotion" to ones own personal interest and beliefs. Such as money, art, science, beauty, sex...we all have our Gods.
Zdenek Smith 100+
I do not communicate with or look for guidance in money, art, beauty etc. I am also not devote to them. Therefore they cannot be my God? Rather I am devoted to my family and society.
For me religion, beside the God's figure, is guided by a set of believes established a long time ago and hardly changing over the time?
Cheers =)
Matthieu Miossec 100+
Wayne Busby 30+
Matthieu Miossec 100+
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Wayne Busby 30+
I expect that you come in peace Birdia and will respect your decorum. Your reply does not answer the question and so I invite you to check yourself and respond to the question as it stands.
Your answer is not applicable.
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Wayne Busby 30+
I did not see any advertisement on the Japanese sites that indicated they are Atheist.
It is my hope to keep the minds of everyone open to the idea that there are other ways of looking at our human condition. Ways other than what we as individuals believe, or our latest attempts at a scientific ideoly theorize.
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C.J. Clover
Wayne Busby 30+
Confirming your perception: Absolutely yes! I believe ideas like compassion need to be instilled and nurtured and I have a hard time beliving that people will act as such just 'because'.
I only half jokingly believe that the reason why we are here, is that the infinite Universe is the only place big enough to contain the Human ego. I say this because to me the History of our collective species does not in the least inspire much more than hope.
However intilligent, we are not an intrinsically wise race. This is why I am of the opinon that without some guidance we are doomed.
We are free to believe what we will. This is as it should be yet, not to choose is to choose, so hiding behind 'Aethist paradigms' doesnt wash for me. You have still chosen your 'religion' (a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe) and it is one you will fight to uphold.
Having said all that, my ultimate goal is to define all those most salient truths (wisdom) found in other religions, including my own, look at them as pragmatically as possible (scientifically?) and redefine our direction as a species.
Zdenek Smith 100+
You said that "However intilligent, we are not an intrinsically wise race."
I am curious as to how did you come to that conclusion and what data did you based it on?
Can our guidance be in the form of accrued knowledge of previous generations of philosophers, psychologists, free thinkers, history and ethics that involves critical thinking and discussion of the community?
I don't think all of us have 'religion' because religion requires a "belief of some superhuman power or powers". Set of beliefs is only a part of it. =)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
Wayne Busby 30+
"Can our guidance be in the form of accrued knowledge of previous generations of philosophers, psychologists, free thinkers, history and ethics that involves critical thinking and discussion of the community?" It depends if the audience is effectively (or just efficiently) listening. Where hearing is selective remember "You cannot learn from what you choose to forget."
What data did I base it on?? That is a curious question. Turn on your tv. Intelligence is efficient, Wisdom is effective. The formers' worth tends to be measured in the moment the latter stands to becomes a principle.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
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Wayne Busby 30+
Zdenek Smith 100+
In terms of atheist groups, one prominent one is called SOS Village. Lots of organizations that work abroad in developing countries do not have any religious connections.
I think whether people are religious or not, they like to help others =)
Wayne Busby 30+
Budimir Zdravkovic 20+
If you want ethics that can do without a higher power, there are Utalitarian ethics which are consequence based, there are also Kantian ethics which are categorical based ethics (closer to traditional based ethics but without an appeal to a higher power).
Some practical examples of these in modified forms can be seen in secular humanism, human rights, the North American justice system etc.
Wayne Busby 30+
Mark Meyer 10+
Wayne Busby 30+
Do these organisms actually call themselves secular?
Mark Meyer 10+
Wayne Busby 30+
It is still probable that they operate implementing a work ethic that is more than simply humanitarian. They may feel a duty to do what it is they are doing. Its not just a job.
Perhaps this might be chicken or egg but I still feel the inception of such groups starts or is at least encouraged by some of what you call religious influence.
Matthieu Miossec 100+
But giving aid shouldn't be about someone's religious views, I think the real question should be "are there any recognized organizations currently involved in any social aid, amnesty groups, hunger relief efforts which are not motivated by religion (and a hardly hidden desire to convert people)" and the answer here is yes there are tons!
There's the redcross, médecins sans frontières, UNICEF, Amnesty international, Oxfam UK, the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation...to name but a very few. If you're going to argue that without religion, charity somehow completely dissapears, you are so wrong. Satisfied?
Wayne Busby 30+
Further if you were to pull up the mission statements of those organisms you identified you might be surprised as to their origins and the alignment of those who work for them.