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At what level does the cost of justice become injustice. – An Idea before the inevitable Question to come, in another conversation.
I am looking to hear from commenters' who accept Zimbardo’s hypotheses on Evil; imagine it a pre-requisite to getting a thumbs-up.
There is a lesson to be learned from this topic; will you be a “hero” or continue the evil by being “passive” about it?
Big-Businesses, shipping world wide are subject to outside-quality-control. Our industry of courts are a value-adding-chain-of-operations [With no outside-quality-control] with many players. The operators are the lawyers, judges and hundreds of specialists and other court officials; the whole being “very big business.” They all must be paid; but with whose money? And then of course there is a value-added-tax that goes to our government. What is the cost of a divorce; for many in the middle class it is their entire wealth. Do you find this immoral?
Can you imagine this value-adding-chain being like a Train that you get on for the ride; and can’t get off until the final destination?
Do you have the courage to say this is an evil business train; not unlike another “story of trains” we know in history? Is that much evil, a function of a few bad apples, or a function of the business organization itself? People lose their homes by tiny-fraudulent-steps which are sold by Realtors. Deed-Notaries allow for fraudulent conveyances! And plaintiff’s lie “a-little.” And Judges hastily grant unconscionable court orders. At every stage of the chain, “just a little bit of evil” is added; the total delivers death; death by a thousand cuts.When will we be able to bring the criminals to justice in the criminal courts?
When are we going to overturn the money changers tables? Will you just say there is nothing you can about it.
Closing Statement from Don Wesley
It has provided us with the names of commentors who are seeking the right path to justice.
They must be honored.
They are to be trusted.
I am truly a better person, having talked to them.
Don [From The Silent Generation - the 30's]
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geoffrey douthat
i hope it dosnt lead to more executions because its cheaper for the state
maybe thats why the taliban have more sucess in afghanistan than nato, because they bring a form of justice more real than the western model even though they would probvably kill you if you didnt agree
it seems that all the "training" in law is a exercise to impart a sort of morality into people to carry out this legal work indiferent to outcomes for excisseve amounts of money wich then protects itself from all attack because of self intrest.
respectful anarchy may work because it seems that all power corrupts all eventually
Josh S
Taliban may have more success than NATO because they are from Afghanistan. They are not some foreign force trying to control the area, but their own cousins, there own friends, their own countrymen. The taliban offers t he afghans opportunity, justice in their own sense, and a multitude of other things. What do we offer, peace? That is a large order that is unlikely to be filled, and the people know it.
What is respectful anarchy? an idealist possibility? the term in and of itself is an oxymoron. There is no respectful anarchy and there never has been. What we have now may not be perfect, but it does work and it works well for the majority of those involved, rich or poor.
geoffrey douthat
Yes, its the justice the talib offer, as you say, thats my point.
Respectful anarchy, pretty simple realy, seems you not familar with Gandhi ideal state, maybe you should do some research, and as for working well for rich and poor, wow, sounds like you dont get out much, you should educate yourself about how the poor in this world actualy live and develop a little more emphathy. peace
Josh S
Our judicial system, flawed as it is, remains to be one of the most succesful institutions in our country's history as well as in the history of modern countries.
No i have not had direct experience in being arrested and charged and in need of a lawyer, and i do not want to 'get out' and experience being arrested.
I did not refer to the poor in the world, but to the poor in the US. Both rich and poor have at least SOME options, which is better then most, even if it is not ideal.
Don Wesley 50+
What is the cost of a divorce; for many in the middle class it is their entire wealth.
Do you find this immoral?
Don Wesley 50+
What is the cost of a divorce; for many in the middle class it is their entire wealth.
Do you find this immoral?
Don Wesley 50+
Your explanation has helped me to clarify the theme of this conversation.
My sincere thanks.
Don