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That empty space is a medium which conducts matter/energy (?)

First I ask you to be mindful of the fact that I am not an astrophysicist nor am I an expert in this area of study. That being said, what is space? It is not nothing, nothing is just that, it is nothing. Space cannot be nothing because nothing does not exist. If space is composed of anti-matter or dark matter then that would confirm that space is not nothing, it is something. Exploring this concept logically, why does matter and energy travel or radiate so easily through space if it is something?

Before you say that concentrations of dark matter make it difficult for light to pass though consider this. Is it possible that the vast span of space is a conductor of energy and matter? We know that space is transparent considering we are looking for light, radiation, mass etc. But why? On your computer you are capable of seeing millions of gigabytes of information but have you ever seen the wire through your screen? Obviously you can see an Ethernet cord which is transmitting data by looking away from the screen, but you had to shift your gaze away from the screen. Looking at space for us is like looking at the internet from inside the screen.

So to all of you Mensa members and genius prodigies I ask you, is our concept of space biased? Can space be something that is entirely different than we imagined? Is space a solid which conducts matter and energy the way copper conducts electricity?

Topics: logic philosophy science space
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    Vidyardhi Nanduri

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    May 16 2012: There lies a new dimensional knowledge base .First, you must see orientation towards new concepts. Space weather, Sdo, Sterio data, ESA cluster missions open up new vistas . You need Integration through Plasma regulated electromagnetic phenomena in magnetic field Environment- See books on plasma vision of the universe and plasma regulated [pREM] Universe [1993-95] updates on cosmology Vedas Interlinks
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    Roy Bourque 20+

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    May 12 2012: What happens if we draw a perfect vacuum in a chamber. Does the space in the chamber cease to exist? The matter in the chamber is removed, but the space (volume) is still there. It simply has nothing in it. Space is a nearly perfect vacuum. But it is a huge volume. There are particles in space, but very low density. Matter travels through space in particles; protons, neutrons, electrons, as well as radiation (photons). There is virtually nothing in space to impede these particles so they flow without resistance. Once they reach the earth, they impart their energy on what they come in contact with. That is how energy reaches the earth from the sun. There doesn't have to be anything in space to transmit the energy because there are three types of energy transfer; conduction = transmitting through a solid, convection = transmitting through a liquid or gas, and radiation = transmitting through space. The energy from the sun is totally radiation.

    • K Hamzeh

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      May 15 2012: Dear Roy" Does the space in the chamber cease to exist? The matter in the chamber is removed, but the space (volume) is still there."Your explanation is the very ordinary feeling of all of us, however I think it is not the reality. Please think over my comments below (4 days ago).SPACE is not matter or radiation, so inside a vacuum chamber is nothing but just a part of our non-materialistic world that laws of physics hold on the mass and the radiation.This simple unusual view about SPACE is the answer to the question about the ultimate boundary of the outer space. I think laws of physics, like our thougths, do not exist physically. I call these metaphysics.Regards
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    Bernard Seremonia

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    May 11 2012: Empty space is something. Empty space is not nothingness.

    If there is a process that could lead to something toward the zero condition, where all particles motion stop completely, then it turned into something we recognize as empty space.

    Judging from the motion of a particle:

    - From the material turned into empty space, it requires effort (energy)
    - From the empty space into a particular matter requires effort.
    - But from empty space into something completely different, equal to something that try to pass through it, it doesn't require effort.

    There is no "something is passing through empty space", but actually it's only "something is changing an empty space into something itself". That is i believe there is no transparent empty space. Empty space is not transparent, but it soon turned into something that can move (trying) through it.

    Empty space is an unstable something and easily turned into something that can get through it. But if we are able to raise just a little movement using (just) empty space, then empty space will converted into certain material (as far as relevant to the circumstances of the movement) and it takes effort to restore to an empty state.

    In terms of awareness, along with the collapse of something toward the zero condition, where all particle motion stops completely, then it turned into something we recognize as empty space, which is known as a deep meditative state. Empty space is a state of awareness.

    The more we go into the particles, then the final frontier of particle is not the smallest particle (or the smallest of something), but the smallest one is an emptiness (space). The final frontier is the awareness.

    And yes, empty space is something that can turn into matter / energy.

    Less or more ...

  • K Hamzeh

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    May 11 2012: Hello Adam
    I think SPACE do not exist. Our (materialistic part of) universe consists of matters and energies.
    However, the space IS something. It is the potential of existence with physical rules governing anything which exist.
    So we should not assume that space is NOTHING!
    Also I think matter and energy do not need any medium to exist or move.
    Good luck
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      Roy Bourque 20+

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      May 16 2012: K Hamzeh,
      I don't follow your comment. You say space does not exist, and then you say it is not nothing. This seems contradictory. How can something not exist?

      • K Hamzeh

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        May 16 2012: Dear Roy
        I mean "physically exist" by word EXIST. May be I do not know better word to refer to this. I want you do differentiate between existence of mass and existence of a law of physics like gravity. A law of physics holds in our WORLD, but it does not exist like mass or energy.
        I mean SPACE do not exist like mass, it is just a basic parameter for laws that govern mass and energy in the WORLD.
        I hope it is clear.
        Thank you for your attention!
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    pat gilbert 50+

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    May 10 2012: The laws for each universe is different, you are not so arrogant to think this is the only one are you?

    Basically and completely it behave however we agree it will behave. Space and matter are a degree of density.
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      Adam Cross

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      May 11 2012: Perception or theories? And no I am talking about this universe because it happens to be what is right in front of me. I cannot speculate on the laws of infinite dimensions with infinite probabilities.
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