- Sid Tafler
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What does cave art mean to you?
Stone Age art has fascinated people around the world since some of the first discoveries of cave paintings in France and Spain in the 19th century.
The recent Werner Herzog film "Cave of Forgotten Dreams," showcasing the spectacular panels of lions and horses at Chauvet, brought new attention to Paleolithic art.
If you haven't gazed into the deep past recently, do a web search for Lascaux, Chauvet or Altamira cave.
What do these arts forms mean to you?
Do you find them beautiful, primitive, artistically inspired, or something less?
Are these drawings art for art sake, an attempt by Paleolithic people to reproduce the world they experienced?
Or do they have some deep cosmic or spiritual significance?
Why did these people of 15,000 to 30,000 years ago often create these works in places that were difficult to access?
Were they trying to communicate with each other, access worlds beyond their own, or engage in hunting magic?
Or were they just enjoying themselves scratching and drawing on cave walls?
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Salim Solaiman 50+
It means a beautifully creative / imaginative mind expresses itself regardless of time, space or condition .....
Debra Smith 200+
natasha nikulina 50+
"... what the artistic mind was thinking at the dawn of human civilization......"
Maybe that mind was not thinking, but feeling ?
In the context of our previous 'aha-moment' conversation, these paintings are uninterrupted 'aha-moment ' !
What do you think ?
Salim Solaiman 50+
What I think :).....I think and feel "YES" to what you wrote above....
"Eureka" moment, "Aha" moment only comes in a thoughful mind , a mind which is also reflective as well.......what's your thoughts about it?
In other discussion you were talking about "LEAP' moment due to neuronal activity.....as usual not being an expert in any field ......I feel that "LEAP" only happens if someone is focusing , reflecting on something conciously , subconciously then even unconciously.....
If I am not wrong , Dostoevsky had a medical condition named Epilepsy.....after each epileptic seizure he used to get a plot of story ......!!! And his belief was that it was somewhat devine.....
But scientifically Epilepsy happens due to uncontrol discharge of neuronal charges for a very short period of time......only thoughtful , reflective Dostoevsky used get wonderful PLOT for his writing ......but that is not the case to most of others with similar condition......
Have a good day.
natasha nikulina 50+
'Eureka" moment, "Aha" moment only comes in a thoughful mind , a mind which is also reflective as well.......what's your thoughts about it?
I think , "Eureka" comes to a thoughtful mind, AFTER the state of being unfocused, literally, not thinking.
Knowing, by its very nature exists in a way form. Mind, being in the sate of thinking cant' get there.
What is meditation ? - It's undisturbed mind, free from noise of thoughts. Does it obliterate consciousness ? Of cause not, it rather highlights it to the state of 'knowing'.
But not everybody, who meditates makes breakthrough discoveries. To bring the message from there , the mind must be ready to receive it , it must have been adequately prepared by prior experience.
That's what I called a 'leap' , a mind can tap directly into the non-algorithmic depth of knowing. Thinking - not thinking - shaping a new idea.
Make no mistake, it's not the way it is; it's the way i think it is :)
And now, let's return to the topic... what was the state of conscious of those humans, who were capable of revealing such undisturbed pure beauty ?
Their mind was not trained in thinking, it didn't have to make a leap. It was in the flaw ...
Thanks for asking ! :)
Salim Solaiman 50+
Agree to a great extent.......
My hypothesis is
All creative people may not meditate conciously or trained way but subconcious or uncious way they might have some periods when their brain is not disurbed...................
Benzene ring in chemistry was discovered by F. A. Kekule was a result of day dreaming as he said....... his dream was about a snake seizing it's own tail......that means thoughts were there still but may be it was a soothing thought or not creating any chatter in brain after he has done years on enormous analysis and research to come up with that structure....
What do you think?
natasha nikulina 50+
The history of science is rich in examples , Mendeleev's periodic table is also the gift of the dream. Or it could be the dream-like state of mind, or at least distracted, unfocused mind.
The snake motif, that symbolises the yoga concept of kundalini helped Watson to discover the genetic molecule, DNA. And it was after the "years of enormous analysis and research".
You see how symbol works ! Look through CECILIA' s comments if you haven't done it yet, symbols are connected with scientific breakthroughs in many ways.
But what i find the most interesting that, truth of the scientific insight is judged in terms of aesthetic criteria.
More and more often I hear the world "beautiful'' in a scientific context.
Just start to pay attention at this seemingly odd pairing : beautiful equation, set ...it is everywhere...
I think, that our intuitive mind doesn't discriminate Truth and Beauty. But to see the beauty in the equation your mind must be trained in this field.
And so it goes on in circle...
" thoughts were there still but may be it was a soothing thought or not creating any chatter in brain after he has done years on enormous analysis and research to come up with that structure...".
Maybe "a soothing thought " is a symbol or image ?
Thanks !