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Is there room for God in science (Creationlism vs Evolution)?

1)Do you believe in one, both or none?
2)Why do you believe it (them)?
3)Does your belief(s) prove others wrong? How so?
4)Is there room for God in science? Or is it
unreasonable to mix the two?


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  • May 8 2012: Um, point of order: We seem to be anthropomorphizing G*d continuously as an old white guy in the clouds. If we're going to be silly (because, IMSIO, religion nowadays is little more than a fun alternative translation of why things are awesome and how to appreciate awesomeness) why aren't we picturing G*d as the sexy sun goddess Ameratsu, the mysteriously cool Odin, or the kick-a** party monster that is Legba? Just wondering.

    @Roy: "Given the earth, we have molecular formations being guided by the octet rule. Could any other rule have applied? If the answer is yes, then molecular formations are all built on chance. If the answer is no, then why not?"

    F***ing brilliant. Let's anthropomorphize it, since the laws of Physics are so boring. The Ameratsu within compels all molecules to get together in a orgy of edutainment until new and interesting things happen. The law, therefore must be "if it feels good, synthesize it". Or, maybe more simply, "Quarks just wanna have fun". Why is it wrong to imagine that every single point of "mattergy" is just trying to find happiness and joy? Personally, I think the atoms were laughing at Heisenberg as he was trying to measure.

    @Gabo: "If you are being much more generic and want to call the way things work "God." Fine. But I find the thought useless [...] Creationism is mere mythology (and quackery)..."
    But, but...don't you find it mind numbingly boring to see the world as a series of uncaring natural systems, "destined" to serve their function as cold pieces of interstellar machinery? Also, mere mythology? Were it not for mythology, for the dreams and allegories of our fore bearers, Romulus and Remus wouldn't have been the inspiration for stories about one of the greatest civilizations our world has seen in antiquity. Were it not for mythology, the movie Master of the Flying Guillotine would've been a boring historical movie. Were it not for mythology, our reach wouldn't be bothered to try and grasp at all...
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      May 8 2012: Jean,
      I have a problem with anthropomorphizing God. I don't see God as an alternative to physics, I see it as a window into spirituality. Physics doesn't control how we think. Physics controls how and what we are able to create. Much of what we create is a product of imagination, which is connected to intuition.
      I don't believe that there is such a thing as creation science. There is nothing in the bible that tells us how God created anything. The point I was trying to make is that there is an order to the universe that we didn't put there, and the ancients referred to that order as God. But their line of thinking pertains to issues of right and wrong, and not what works and what doesn't.

      So long as science is going to tell me that I am a cosmic accident, that my death is the eternal end to me, and I see people trying to step on me because they see me as a competitor in life (someone to be used and abused for their own personal gain), then I am going to take issue with science as the all to everything we need to know about life. I refer back to your statement about uncaring natural systems destined to serve their function as cold pieces of interstellar machinery. There is more to life than just what science can tell us.

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