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Derek Young

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What are some really interesting/intriguing *EXPIRED* converations on TED and what did you get out of that conversation?

I want to know what I missed before I started using Ted.

I also see this as a reference point from which we can learn a bit of Ted history and evolution online.

No matter the magnitude of impact the conversation had or did not have in the larger scheme of things, maybe it will greatly impact the next generation, like our children. .

Don't fear stating your ideas any longer.

May we all grow from this experience.

What is fascinating and is worth continuing the spreading of that idea/ideas?

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    Apr 23 2012: http://www.ted.com/conversations/10729/what_is_it_that_brings_this_ol.html

    This was a very interesting conversation that brought to my attention the power of music. It is a musical form of a message and if the message was powerful enough, then that message will stick and music apparently helps.

    Now what if everyone started singing instead of just talking, would messages be better absorbed?

    I got a lot of inspiration of helping the growing elderly population and especially those with deteriating minds.
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      Apr 25 2012: HI Derrek,

      Yes I saw this one, and made some comments there about the underlying neural structures that account for the man's revitalisation through the music trigger. And all honour to Edward Long - what a lovely guy!

      There is some kind of mystical/spritual dimension to music. I'm sure it's just physics, but it seems to go beyond personal perception spaces (with their attendant belief structures).

      It is this spiritual potential that has drawn me along to speculate about additional dimensions of time.
      I have been involved in music all my life - in a lot of different capacities and aspects. This has led me to some strange places .. one finds oneself being attracted into "filaments" of reality that function outside the normal rules of probabilty.
      One of these filaments is "tradition".
      As a young man, I played rock and pop music. It was all energy and excitement, and afforded some existential places that opened improbable levels of privelidge and joy.
      Later on, I began to follow traditional music with a great passion - a passion that had been calling all along.
      As my passion unfolded, the great majestic sweap of tradition opened up .. like a homecoming .. and suddenly, all the underlying love and empathy of the bearers of tradition took me into that defining grace.
      As well as gaining the millenia-old secrets of craft, I also started meeting "gods" and leaned some of their dynamics .. and the great over-arching unification of the music itself - the love of our ancestors.

      I have rendered a lot of this down into a basic map of space/metaspace, but there is that margin of inspiration that beckons - the subtle shift of probability that should not exist, that takes us into these filaments.

      I just spent a while thinking about Brian Green's speculations of the multiverse. The "music in the superstrings" is attractive .. but most of all, the dimensional "shapes" of his multi-universes .. and all the string-guys saying that there is only one dimension of time .. I disagree.
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        Apr 26 2012: "There is some kind of mystical/spritual dimension to music"

        Indeed, music and song!

        Thinking of a prayer is strong; speaking it is stronger; singing it is strongest.

        Every religion uses some form of song and music in their ritual; from chanting to throat-singing, prayers are often sung as there is creation in the vibration from sounds humans make.

        Who among us has not had our emotions affected by music? Even the deaf feel the vibrations.

        What is the harmonic identity of the proton, the first of the earth particles to be formed? It is the seven energy positions of musical key.

        The ancients called this the beard of the Ancient One, as it is found on the center of the face of the cranium in the shape of a beard; aka The Beard of God.

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        The beats of my bodhrán form the cobbelstones upon which the wee fae jig to the melody of your pennywhistle ... celebrating life through music is perhaps the highest expression of love.
        • Apr 26 2012: Watch this....I think you'll enjoy it

          http://youtu.be/ne6tB2KiZuk

          Only 3 minutes long
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          Apr 26 2012: Music unites us before our egos get a chance to judge.

          Where are you referencing the "harmonc identity of teh proton"?
          I have seen a lot of attempts to unite the musical intervals with chakras and such, but it tends to be a bit "crammed-in" with no convincing numbers.. specially if someone uses a piano keyboard and teh western even-temperament tunings - these both have serious harmonic flaws .. In the Indic tradition, a singer spends a year or more simply finding their basic note - it is different in each individual.

          I admire the Indic tradition of music, it is not separated from us as it is in the West. As a practicing professional musician for a long time, I have to admit that being a "professional musician" is something of a vanity. Sure, we have masters to admire, but music should be something that everyone engages in - just for the joy of it. The specialisation of teh "professional" puts it on the other side of a paid-for performance .. this is wrong.
      • Apr 26 2012: Mitch,

        Watch this clip, short and powerful

        http://youtu.be/ne6tB2KiZuk
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          Apr 26 2012: Yes, the pentatonic is fundamental.
          Impressive to see how any audience just "gets it" instantly.

          In the Lydian mode, the pentatonic is the raag of Durga.
          Durga is traditionally the consort of Shiva. She was created by the gods to overcome the immortal buffalo demon Mahishha. The dark side of Durga is Kali.
          I designed a set of whistles in honour of the legend of Durga. THis was before I was making my own - the design was executed in teh 22-note indic chromatic scale on 100 year old wood from Mysore by whistle-maker Simon Styles. The first is Durga, the second Shiva (Bhairav raag), the third is Mahishha who has no raag, so it is the western diatonic scale (give or take the subtleties of teh indic scale).
          The legend was read to me by Nawal Haharaj, a North Indian musician over the phone - reading and translating from a 400 year old Sanskrit scroll.
          Here is the set being demonstrateed by Tony Hinnigan (whistle player on "Titanic" soundtrack):
          http://media.tonyhinnigan.net/movies/Shiva.wmv

          The history and process of producing these whistles with Simon and Nawal was life-changing.
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          Apr 27 2012: Pretty interesting stuff. Must be collectors items?
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          Apr 28 2012: Derek, I avoid "collectors" like the plague.
          My work is for those who have a musical soul to express. I put in the whistles the space for them to expand and grow - whether anyone sees it or not.
          I have incrementally altered the phase of my interaction with the physical flow of the world by converting the word "order" into "request". I take orders from no one. No oen should.
          I take requests from a single human of another human, and I will honour it as a single human.

          I am looking for ways to close my request book and just do my work with no request.
          I will make what I have to give, and take it to rare places where what I have to give has value.
          And if there is another human on Earth who needs what I have to give - there he/she will be to accept it.
          This is radical in commercial space, but it is far more powerful than any money .. far far more powerful.

          And the more I can invite into this space, the better it will be for all.
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          Apr 28 2012: Good point, but I am poor and would like to a nice stable job with healthy environment.
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        Apr 27 2012: "Where are you referencing the "harmonc identity of teh proton"?


        The Kabbalistic Book of Concealed Mysteries which tells the story of energy/spirit.

        It is a raw look at the unification of spirit and matter.

        "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth." The first earth is the proton.

        When the light waves reach the symmetry center of the universe, they form a new bond that transforms them into the gravity releasing earth waves. The first construction of the earth waves is the proton which is a complete and self-contained sphere of earth particles.

        The second earth is the electron.
        The electron is considered to be made from an inferior process - a process of judgment (sin) where perfect ratios are changed to accommodate the new state.

        Think of the proton as the perfect reflection of the perfect being, and the electron as introducing the transition from the perfect state to the imperfect state of man (atom).

        The light wave is formed in an unsymmetrical state, but having all of the required elements to achieve perfect symmetry. Through harmonic motion the light wave is transformed into the symmetrical state where it re-forms as the seven stable energy centers of key.

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        Did you ever get my Email via TED? TED seems unable to send mail to me as I do not receive any notifications nor have they responded to my Email requests. I sent you an Email via TED, but now I wonder if you ever received it.

        [For a company whose first acronym represents 'technology', it's woefully inept in this department.]
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        Apr 28 2012: lol

        I shall take that to mean you didn't get my Email.
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        Apr 29 2012: Mitch, what happened to your postings re: the neutron and your operating from within the 6?

        Shoot me an email from a non-TED account if you would ... [edited] ... thanks, yes I know the problems with putting up an Email, but as TED is unable to get any mail to or from me, it was my best option. I've since figured out what the issue was. Thanks again.
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          Apr 29 2012: THose posts were getting a bit nutzo.
          I've only just started looking at scalar energy, all that Tesla stuff is difficult to fit in, it can lead to wild assumptions.
          Tom Bearden and Konstantin Meyl . These guys seem to know a lot about it, but they are also conspiracy buffs .. and that makes me wary.
          I'm going to continue thinking about it, but on teh basis of 3-time. Because the way life modulates entropy suggests extra latitude in time for the noise.
          Suggestions that time-space has a self organising principle tightly linked to time and the energy asymetries of that .. I'll try to stay on the edge of it I know - the perception/agency boundaries between 3 space and "metaspace" (data and information).
          SOme inferences can be drawn between 3-space topological compression of information and the time-curviture produced by longitudinal energy .. but these get a bit like fantasy.
          IT's hard enough to keep any kind of functional reality-frame from which to execute decisions .. fantasy does not help.

          BTW - you might want to edit-out your email address .. spam bots are everywhere.
    • Apr 26 2012: Derek,

      Have you seen the 3 minute video by Bobby McFerrin?

      Click on the link I gave Mitch.......I never tire of watching it........Music is...is.....unexplainable.
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        Apr 27 2012: That was amazing!

        Maybe we are born as blank slates, but we all have the capacity for music, which was an innate skill?
        • Apr 27 2012: What about classical music?

          Have you seen Zander's talk on classical music yet? It is b - e - a -utiful!!
          One of my favorites.....so many wonderful things to take away from his TED talk.

          If you want to see Bobby McFerrin do this activity with kids, there are several videos of him on youtube.........he is so amazing.....
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          Apr 28 2012: Hey Mary, Music is obscured to us. BAch was the last classical composer who understod this - hear all his work which was composed for the "well tempered clavier" .. then go off and research the "archefoon". This will be the only instrument that can play old original Bach.

          Then go off and research the 22-note chroma of geometrical subdivision on the auditory chroma as researched and proven by the Indic musical tradition.

          This si a lot of owrk, and the truew "chroma" was removed from webspace by the Indian governmenst a couple years ago.

          I still have it in a spreadsheet if you truly want it.

          I have been attarcted by many harmonic explainations of life and music, however, they are full of assumptions and totally wrong calculations that people love to "suck-up" to their ultimate destruction.

          I am in posession of the truth of harmony. ANd I don't part with it lightly. And if I do, I impart it to the one who wil take it further. There are vanishingly few of those.

          So it is dark.

          Make light and I will make light.

          If you want it just for your head, then you are the weak force. If you want it for love - and you can show your love. I will give it. as it was given to me.

          This is a quest, not a knowledge - you have to be it to knoew it. This is the rule of 6-time - we in 6-time abhore the tangents of teh 2-time of human greed. We are simply not there.
          To join us is to die in everything you think you know.

          Are you brave enough to enter your OWN universe?
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          Apr 28 2012: If you do not reveal your pain, then you do not exist.

          Reveal your pain - and die.

          ANd in that moment. I wil take you home.

          And you will not die.
          (Sorry for the quasi-mystical language there .. it does not translate well.)

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