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Do you have undiognosed ADHD? Before you say "No" have a look at what undiognosed ADHD looks like in Adults.

Lets see what undiagnosed Adhd in Adults looks like from the outside….

1: Consistently forgetful. i.e walking into kitchen and forgetting why your there
2: Start tasks but never finishes them or never gets round to starting them in the 1st place.
3: Drinks lots of coffee or energy Drinks and smokes or used to smoke
4: Has Anxiety and/or other mental health problems
5: Very unorganised. So much so that it is a shock when they do what they say they are going to do at the time they said they would. Is constantly late
6: Has trouble motivating themself to such a degree that they appear lazy.
7: Has mood swings
8: Often sais the wrong thing at the wrong time
9: Very impulsive and doesnt think before acting
10: Has gone from job to job because of boredom or perceived injustice in the workplace
11: Has constant relationship problems
12: Seems to have difficulty in controlling any emotion. i.e If someone annoys them they cant ignore the anger and must act on it. Even to their own detriment.
13: Has family members who are "Just as bad as them"
14: Gets very sleepy when doing tasks that involve lots of focus.
15: Is consistently distracted by things that are not relevant to the task at hand.
16: Intelligent but has trouble showing it in any sort of constructive way. i.e unable to gain employment or qualifications in an area that they are fantastic at.
17: Has an addictive nature
18: Has trouble sleeping
19: Has money problems all the time.

I will stop there, the list would go on much longer if I listed the life course outcomes of this condition. I welcome any questions and would be happy to explain in detail why this list is related to Adhd symptoms.

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    Apr 6 2012: half the population falls into this category then.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
  • Apr 6 2012: Thank you for the reply Jeff, I’m glad you posted and showed an example of how wrong you can be about something and how you unknowingly discriminate and attack people who may have the most severe outpatients mental health problem in the world.
    What’s irresponsible is you discriminating against Adhd when you have no idea what it is. Instead of replying with an uneducated opinion I would suggest you go and do some research and learn what Adhd is. Let me help you with a link to the Facts. This is one clip which you should then follow up with the others on there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1YRE8ff1g

    Note: The Adhd Brain has differences to a normal brain in structure and function. Adhd is also Genetic in nature which has repeatedly been proven in countless research projects run by governments and health authorities. You are blinded by what you think you know and wrong assumptions. Step into todays research and you may learn something about the brain and mental health.
    • Apr 7 2012: [C] Thank you for the reply Jeff, I’m glad you posted and showed an example of how wrong you can be...

      [J] Hmmm... when did asking for actual evidence equate to being wrong? I am not attacking anyone. Please show me the relevant science and you will have a convert. Where no evidence is offered then it cannot mean anything but that this is a completely unsubstantiated claim.

      If you have access to the research, you should be able to cite it. I am adept at reading medical papers so please indicate by citation the peer-reviewed papers which appear in reputable medical journals, confirming genetic and hereditary links to ADHD.

      This request to you is specifically about the confirmed and replicated science... I have absolutely no interest in the myriad wacky theories which abound concerning the nature of ADHD, from any sources.
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    Apr 9 2012: I question the premise. Whoever came up with these questions has an agenda to sell their psychology services. There fore it benefits them to have lots of potential customers right? Now I'm sure the psychologists are well intentioned but the fact is that if it were not for government funding the entire industry would go away.

    When I was a kid, in the previous century, the good doctor, I was sent to by the school, determined that I had "learning disabilities" which was the forerunner to the modern diagnosis of "ADHD". I was 12 and put on Ritalin which caused me to lose weight as food didn't taste good (a common symptom of speed) and slept about 3-4 hours a night. I must admit that I did appear more calm on the outside (cowed) but on the inside I was going a million miles an hour. After a few months I took myself off of the good doctors panacea. But here is the rub only recently did I realize that after all these years I had this notion stuck in my head that I couldn't lean. You may say that is trivial but I would respond that the notion put there by the good doctor was infinitely more damaging than any silly ass medication. The reason is that you don't realize that it is there, you don't realize that it is effecting you.

    I argue against these questions being asked of adults let alone kids as anyone unfortunate enough to listen to this quackery (insert evil tittering) will start blaming the problem on something else which automatically makes them the effect of what ever pathology the good doctors decide is the cause, of which they will gladly get you hooked on the panacea du jour, at a tidy profit for the rest or your life (can you spell residuals).

    Politicians use the straw man and psychologist use the straw disability both can be quite damaging.
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    • Apr 9 2012: Nicely put, Natasha. Medicating people who are, essentially, healthy is a mistake. Medicating young children with highly toxic and addictive preparations is both stupid and demonstrates a lack of parental understanding.

      Interestingly, Chris raised the idea of ADHD being a disease and closed with the following statement: [quote] "I welcome any questions and would be happy to explain in detail why this list is related to Adhd symptoms" [unquote]

      Sadly, no evidence or explanation has been offered.
  • Apr 6 2012: Im in the midle of making a video but I sure you that I will reply with the evidence, opinions and what I personaly think. I did not say I am pro Adhd, I am going the long way to explain what it is so you can make your own informed decision.

    If you have a bit of time to spare watch this and then research the speaker and the research done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WroDEcG7tJc&feature=relmfu
  • Apr 6 2012: In the referenced report; The British Psychological Society was of the view that British physicians and psychiatrists should not follow the American example of applying medical labels to such a wide variety of attention-related disorders... "The idea that children who don’t attend or who don’t sit still in school have a mental disorder is not entertained by most British clinicians."

    Me neither.

    J Learn Disabil. 1999 Jan-Feb;32(1):85-91.
    ADHD: a psychological response to an evolving concept. (Report of a Working Party of the British Psychological Society)

    You may find the following instructive: http://www.ritalindeath.com/ADHD-Evidence.htm

    What is mystifying is why there are people who believe that drug therapies are going to alter anything. This so-called genetic/hereditary condition won't be susceptible to drugs if it is genetic. Gene therapy is required but with no identifiable physical cause, we are only dealing with psychological causes.

    The lack of evidential data has people seriously suggesting that daily exposure to green spaces may help to treat ADHD! A genetically mediated condition? This is not science.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1758-0854.2011.01052.x/abstract

    It is entirely believable that ADHD is a conditioned response. A conditional attentional avoidance loop. Perhaps you care to try and read from a wider selection of material than that which supports your viewpoint?

    http://www.adhdtreatment.org/adhd-child.html

    To press, there is no physical data whatsoever that confirms that ADHD exists as a disease!
  • Apr 6 2012: ADHD - another manufactured 'disease' that benefits big pharma. Diseases require physical abnormalities to confirm their existence. No physical changes = no pathological disease present.

    Much of what you have listed are not the signs and symptoms which are exclusive to so-called ADHD. It is a shopping list of signs and symptoms looking for a disease to pin on it. ADHD is not that disease.
    1. Forgetfulness is just habit. You can train yourself to remember things.
    2. Many people don't start task or don't finish them. This is laziness pure and simple - not ADHD
    3. Evidence? Citations?
    4. Evidence? Citations?
    5. Evidence? Citations?
    6. Likely to be fear of failure because if you don't start you cannot finish anything and so won't fail.
    7. EVERYONE has mood swings.
    8. Evidence? Citations?
    9. Evidence? Citations?
    10. I went from job to job as a young man. Any perceived injustice was imaginary rather than real.
    11. Relationships all have their ups and downs... if they don't then either one or both parties is not participating.
    12. Evidence? Citations?
    13. Evidence? Citations? 'Just as bad as them' is a worthless value judgement.
    14. Evidence? Citations?
    15. Distractions are all around us. It is common for people to engage in distraction therapy as a reward to themselves.
    16. Evidence? Citations?
    17. Evidence? Citations?
    18. Evidence? Citations?
    19. Evidence? Citations? Lazy, demotivated, unfocussed and unhappy people may find it difficult to stay in employment.

    Your list is a long way from rigorous science and not very useful to people who may have experienced any or all of these happenings. It is quite irresponsible to offer this arrant nonsense as the rationale for the onset of ADHD, which incidentally has not yet been established as a set of irrevocable biochemical or genetic changes within the human body.
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    Apr 6 2012: What is the source of this list above?
    What about the credibility of that source?
  • Apr 6 2012: Chris, Do you think labeling things with fancy terminology that the medical and pharmaceutical and other "professionals" profit from gives people excuses for undesireable behavior? Individuals have a lot of freedom and choice. They can explain their unwanted behavior with new terms or they can make different choices about what to do and say. Let us not further disempower people.