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Kathleen Gilligan-Smith

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Green Home Energy=Hydrogen Generators-alternative sources

I propose .......that we research, communicate and develop a product, with the help of all countries that are working on successful green energy sources and adapt it into single family living.

I have seen shows where they have been working on Low Pressure Hydrogen tanks with special organic storage cells that make it store energy longer and safer and I think that it would be a great option to have to take your home off the grid and into a Hydrogen Generator for all your home's energy needs.

It would work like the backup generators do, but would have a storage tank/battery for the home's electrical needs and only kick in the generator when the electricity runs low. Like hybrid car engines do. It would also offer a safer system because it would not be producing poisonous gases that could cause death from carbon monoxide leaks. I for one, am trying to figure out a way to bring this into a working system for my new home that I want to be totally self sufficient. I figure it would be cheaper in the long run and it would be greener for my planet. :) I have seen some versions of this for large scale business formats but not for personal home use. I'd like to see it considered for an alternative energy source that anyone can adapt to their homes. If you know of anything like this please let me know? Thank you. KE Gilligan-Smith

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I FOUND IT!!! I finally found the video that got me wondering about this in the first place --

http://video.pbs.org/video/1768954299/

It is the NOVA series on Making Stuff.... and it is the Making Stuff-CLEANER episodes---. I could not believe all the progress we have made but it got me wondering WHY.....why can't we get all these people in this episode together to come up with the best of all of them??? If we could get........The guy with the chicken feathers that are as absorbant as carbon nano tubes at a greener/cheaper way to produce it - that allows storage of Hydrogen in a container without pressure..........along with the guy who developed the BLOOM BOX technology that helps run Google and several other companies.......and the guy that produced a paper thin 'natural leaf' solar strip that operates in water to produce hydrogen with minimal light........and also the guys that have a 500 hp electric motorcycle because of the use of lithium batteries......... if we could get all these people together to create a self sustaining power storage/unit to self contain our homes power and our transportation needs..... - we'd be better for it! Harnessing the solar and hydrogen energy and storing it safely - long term............THAT'S what we need to do now.

Just sayin...............the answers are here....we just need to get them all together to produce the products we need to advance our lives to a cleaner/healthier future!!! :)

So....GO.... WATCH THE VIDEO..... and see what I'm talking about???

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    Apr 4 2012: I also think that Hydrogen storage might be a awesome alternative. However I do not imagine everybody owning a Hydrogen tank inside the house.

    I propose that we should research a system that produces H2 near the energy production, distributes this Hydrogen (avoiding energy losses on transmission), and then regenerating energy in local fuel cells, a more distributed production.

    I think it would be more viable and secure than each house having a H2 generator and a fuel cell.
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      Apr 22 2012: Here is the link for Shell's hydro station that is on site....this is what I was wondering too...why cant this working idea be addapted for a personal home use? I know, I'm out there....but, if we already know how to produce hydrogen power.......seems to me that the logical end would be to power our homes from it too. Electric/hydrogen and wind/solar should, in my opinion, all be utilized to personally power our homes and transportation......but then again I'm thinking more like rural homes not city.....but building a larger on demand site for city users........well why not??? ;) I truly believe that as humans go......we can solve any issue if we work together and let the creative muses out to do what they do best - create! :D

      http://www.shell.com/home/content/media/news_and_media_releases/archive/2008/la_hydrogen_station_26062008.html
      • Apr 22 2012: Kathleen Gilligan-Smith - "In hydrogen vehicles, an electric motor powers the wheels. A chemical reaction inside a unit called a fuel cell – usually between hydrogen and oxygen – creates electricity for the motor."
        The fuel cell could certainly be used to generate electricity for your home, however I am not sure if it would be cost effective. And please don't forget that Hydrogen and Fuel Cells are both flammable and explosive.
        This is from the other link you posted - Generators™ 5000W / 5kW PEM fuel cell with control unit
        for hydrogen gas only $19,995 - this is just the fuel cell, and only generates 5kw. The Hydrogen gas generator is and here I am only guessing "LM-3000 150 1.5 3000 180 0.18 0.016128 2.290176 $0.06
        $22.50 $17,595" it may be more or less as the fuel cell requires a max flow rate 64 L per minute of Hydrogen gas to make the full 5kw.
        Alternatively you could go in this direction from the same link as above "Generators™ 100% hydrogen gas and 40% hydrogen gas / 60% CNG gas generators:
        100% Hydrogen Gas Internal Combustion Engine HICE 5kW $9,895 & storage tank for locally obtainable Hydrogen gas from a welding supply house or such. This setup has an initial cost of 1/2 or less of the fuel cell alone.

        Thanks in advance for your consideration, James
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        Apr 23 2012: I am totally with you when you say wind/solar should be used to personally power our houses, and this for both city and country residences.
        I think the biggest problem with H2 generation in houses is safety, since - as James said - it is flammable. This way a bigger generator (that would also reduce costs) with constant monitoring is better.
        Those bigger generators might not be viable for rural and isolated homes, and even the small ones would fell the lack of a supply chain of the H2 gas. In my opinion solar is the best solution here!

        Lest's discuss it more, and we will find the best solution, indeed.
        Thanks

        Filipe

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