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siddhesh vaze

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who is right, free will or determinism. ?

this is what i know ablout free will , that anything in this world can happen , there is always a free choice for events to occur.
and this is what i know about deterinism . that everything in this world is determined/ pre-planned and it can not be changed , events will occur as they have to .
with taking this knowledge into assumption , who is right free will or determinism.

lets put a hypothesis that determinism is right.
now in the end if we prove that determinism is wrong then the basic assumption contradicts with the result. so if you assume world to be deterministic , it wont allow you to be non-deterministic.

but lets just put a hypothesis that there is free-will in this world. that everything is possible. then if we conclude that the world is deteriministic , then our original assuption dont contradicts with our result. it means that free-will allows the world to be deterministic.
dont this proves free-will to be right?


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    Mar 27 2012: I'm not sure I understand your opening statement.

    Maybe with enough understanding and computing power you could map out or predict every action or decision in the universe. I expect it would be near impossible to ever accurately and precisely map out everything in the known universe. We can't even get the weather forecast right.

    It is so complex even to the level we understand. Near infinite factors and variables we know of. And as we get smaller down to cells and neurons and atoms and sub atomic particles and whatever they are made of etc etc its almost nonsense.

    What is the next word I will type........I don't know?

    From a practical human perspective we run mainly of auto pilot and any decisions we make have the appearance of free will.

    I suggest the biggest practical impediments to freewill is our instinctual drives and responses. Our automatic habitual behaviours. Our intuitive decision making and assumptions. Our unconscious. You look like a person I know who scared me so I feel uncomfortable around you. Our biases and prejudices etc.
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      Mar 27 2012: agreed...
      btw......i think when determinism says that everything is calculated .......its a result that we deduced like if we can say where an atom can be after some time we can say everything else. like its not impossible just very,very much difficult.
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        Mar 29 2012: Maybe absolutely impossible.
        We don't know because we don't know everything about the universe.
        Maybe everything is getting close to infinite.
        At least Practically impossible.

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