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How can we change the meaning of success for society?

Words have a definition, but right next to it, there's their meaning. Their meaning can change. We all know that success can mean a totally different thing for each person.

Minutes ago I was reading comments on the question "Retired Doctors, how do we make better use of them?" ( http://www.ted.com/conversations/10235/retired_doctors_how_do_we_mak.html ) in those comments I found a question that was VERY interesting, by Robert Galway, he asked "How do we sweeten the deal for the top students to convince them to use their talents as medical doctors in some low paying public service job rather than a lucrative medical career?"

I think you can't possibly hope for this to happen when the education your parents give you aims towards making money, the education schools give you aim towards making money and the whole view of success by society is completely related to making money - WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS... how can we do it?

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    Mar 23 2012: First we define the word "success." for society, not for individuals. Then we cogitate on whether or not it should be changed. If we agree it should be changed then "we" set about funding; planning; staffing;organizing; training; and controlling a world-wide, independent, non-government entity to design and implement the proper protocol to realize the New Society.
  • Mar 30 2012: Hi Santiago

    These are your words "... the education schools give you aim towards making money and the whole view of success by society is completely related to making money... "

    I disagree.

    The education that schools give you aim towards making money..
    - What kind of education?
    - Do they teach you how to be with money?
    - Which school has got a subject called: Financial Literacy?
    - Since when at school teachers talk about making money?
    - How many teenagers do you know who truly know the value of money?

    I think I am still on Earth. Allow me to give you my point of view to this old traditional schooling system.

    The schools are told to train good boys and girls to get degree, get a job, pay taxes, get retired and die.
    Welcome on Earth! Pay tax, eat fast food and live short. This is what we teach our kids.

    "... the education your parents give you aims towards making money..."

    In which family do they talk about making money at dinner?
    Do middle class teach their children about money?

    Middle class and poor tell their children:
    "go to school, do you homework, get a degree, get a secured job"
    (a secured job in 21st century, is that possible?)

    The word SUCCESS doesn't necessarily have to be connected with MAKING MONEY.

    The relationship between you and your closest friends can also be a success.
    when you reach your highest peak can also be a success.
    when you meet your needs (emotional, spiritual, physical) can also be a success.

    When Bill Gates' idea turned into a success, it wan't for the sake of making money, don't you think do?
    • Apr 2 2012: you are right, schools don't teach you how to manage money... however usually if you talk to your teachers in middle school or highschool about your future plans (what you want to do or be) they will usually tell students who want to develop in arts not to pursue it, or any profession that to them doesn't sound "money making"

      families talking about money at dinner - well i think they do, specially when in debt, which i think is most of the families and they usually discourage anything that they don't consider "productive" or whatever... they don't teach children about money, usually they teach children that they can do "whatever they want" but as soon as they turn teens and still believe it, they talk to them about money and that they should pursue a secure financial situation rather than risk everything towards something that could/might fail. (this is just a good piece of advice??? maybe yeah and i was misinterpreting it)

      now
      "The word SUCCESS doesn't necessarily have to be connected with MAKING MONEY.

      The relationship between you and your closest friends can also be a success.
      when you reach your highest peak can also be a success.
      when you meet your needs (emotional, spiritual, physical) can also be a success."

      I totally agree with you, but at least i think that this is the individual view of success not the collective one.

      Anyways,,, I chose my words poorly, maybe I still am, but between the lines can you see what I'm trying to say? yes, they teach you to get a job and work and retire and die... this is what I think the problem is - we should do lots of different things with our lives (I know... WE CAN, it's ultimately up to us, but it'd be cool if we could stop damaging minds)
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    Mar 24 2012: So a revolution of consciousness you are saying? The education was given to help people but social pressures and false notions give the allusion to live lavishly.
    The problem you address is that they are not in it just for the craft but for the earnings. You pose a big question how do we get a revolution of consciousness? Well we can't in this society because it is capitalist.
    So society needs to be changed. Edward does give a good idea of creating an independent entity in addition you would need an avenue to pose these ideas to doctors.
    • Mar 26 2012: I would like to think that the capitalist system only governs our trade, not our ideas, but yes, they are strongly related... I'm just tired of looking at the same mistakes over and over.
  • Mar 23 2012: Haha such burocracy