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Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law is unconstitutional and thus illegal
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
To protect the right to venture out of your home (liberty) to purchase sweets for your kid brother (pursuit of happiness) and to expect to return home alive (life).
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This is not a debate about US Gun Law in general.
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Heather White 10+
It looks like Zimmerman will now be claiming self defence - Trayvon Martin's family lawyer has challenged this saying there is no self defence against a bag of candy.
How can Zimmerman follow that? Plead guilty and seek mercy?
Krisztián Pintér 200+
or even go theoretical. what about the SYG law? is it ethical or not? are you obliged to retreat when attacked? are you expected to try to reduce harm? do we need to minimize "overall" harm, if such a thing exists at all?
Eddie Solomon
You're not obligated to retreat if attacked. Its Simple something you may perceive you as a threat you can take it down with any amount of force.
is it ethical or not?
It's not at least not in a country with a well trained police force like U.S.
o we need to minimize "overall" harm, if such a thing exists at all?
they're more than one way to defend yourself without killing
Heather White 10+
John Penn
I've been reading this thread with interest and hadn't intended to post.
But now I feel compelled to, because I sincerely believe that this is a very
unfair comment. I've noted a lot inflammatory comments in this thread and
some serious factual errors, but they weren't from Krisztián. Clearly our
perceptions are different. Respectfully,
John Penn
Ken brown 30+
If the gun wasn't there then what would be the outcome?Probably zimmerman would be carrying some other weapon,a knife which would result in the same outcome but with the possibility of flight and life or a baton with a low probability of death as a result without discounting it.
A car is a transport device used to get us from A to b but in a split second this can change to a lethal force on wheels that takes alot of lives everyday but we are trained to drive these things and taught to obey the road rules and to keep our eyes peeled,of course we can't control or anticipate everything on the roads, we're only human.
The gun is a different matter,it's design is specific,it has no other purpose other than to shoot a projectile.If the training is inadequate as it is clearly seen in this case then it's the system that's at fault for not making sure that that person had enough training to understand the full impact of it's use.It takes three years for our kids here to get a car license.How long does it take for someone in the states to get their gun permit?
Heather White 10+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
and it is especially strange, considering that i asked the same questions that you asked in another thread a little later.
i was indeed rude ... to zimmerman. in what way does that concern you?
i try to minimize the amount of talk about myself. it is not the first time some people set themselves the task to "fix" my way of presenting arguments, instead of replying to them. i tried to tell you multiple times that it is neither relevant nor interesting. but it seems that you care more about my person than your own topic. just take some minutes to skim through my posts here to find dozens of very much on topic observations which you simply ignored. instead, you went on to talk about me. not interested, sorry.