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This Question is for the people that believe in god. (Atheist views also please)

Did you ever thought of this, and if so, please explain to me how does this make sense to you,
Because it doesn't to me.

BTW I'm atheist, but I'm asking this question from a christian point of view.
(I don't claim to no everything, just a truth seeker)

OK, Here we go:

God created you,(Remember you didn't ask to be here,) and then gave you an ultimatum, Worship me and go to Heaven, or You'll burn for eternity in my hell fire.

But...What if i don't want either, why can't i create a third option?
Really, is there any free will in this or is this just free choice?
Besides were ever i was before you created me, am sure i was perfectly fine.
then you decide to bring me here and trap me in your Crappy Options (Heaven or Hell).

Ofcourse if am a believer i wouldn't want to burn in hell, so i'll pick the other option which is heaven.
but am only picking heaven because hell sucks a bit more.

So basically it's worship me or you'll pay. and if i decide not to, Hell awaits me. So, if god really is love why is he so upset and is going to burn me indefinitely, because i think he's a myth that man created to find solace in?
i mean, what type of god leaves no evidence at all, and gets angry because i don't acknowledge him? Let's face it, you can tell me god did it, god created it, god this, god that..but it's all faith based. No matter how much you tell me, you have no proof. So as far as am concerned, if i tell you a pink unicorn in blue jeans created all of this, you can't disprove that.

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    Mar 26 2012: I have read all the comments. This is the first time seeing this.

    The idea of hell comes from ancient Egypt. The Israelites (Hebrews) were told to leave Egypt behind. The current version of Hell isn't found in Genesis. It was dragged back into modern religions through twisted and conflicting beliefs.

    There is no place in the bible where God demands to be worshipped. He requested Moses come and worship him where he would bestow on him the means to create a great nation. If some power made that request to me, I wouldn't hesitate to take that offer.

    The bible was written so that we could come to know the creator that brought us into existence. If the power that created this universe does not really exist, then the universe could not have come into being. If that makes sense to you regardless, then you haven't really thought it out.

    Heaven and hell are the two extremes of human existence. If I could choose one over the other, heaven gets my vote. How I achieve that goal may require that I understand what stands behind it. If I don't know how the universe works, I can't find ways to make it any better.

    Original sin is what we inherit by all the wrongful choices of those who went before us. Whatever they messed up, we have to deal with it whether we like it or not. Or we can just suffer in it if we don't want to deal with it. I choose to deal with it and try to restore it to a better condition.

    Religious writings developed in the age of myth. They are all based on associations. Understand what is being associated and you can figure it out. Today we have the unified field theory of physics. Quantum fields are everywhere. They are invisible. They are the source from which all things come and back to which they go. They are what is doing the creating. They have all the qualities that are attributed to God because that is what they are.

    Shaheem, you have every reason to question what religion is teaching you. Look beyond the words.
    • Mar 31 2012: Roy,

      You said "The bible was written so that we could come to know the creator that brought us into existence."

      The same could be said of every document that contains a creation myth. But more precise wording would be "The bible was written so that we could come to know what the authors of the bible wanted us to believe about the creator that brought us into existence."


      You also said "If the power that created this universe does not really exist, then the universe could not have come into being."

      Your statement isn't necessarily true because you have used different tenses in the two clauses. The power that created this universe could have existed at the time the universe was created, but that power may no longer exist.

      You then said "If that makes sense to you regardless, then you haven't really thought it out."

      This statement is the one that most puzzles me. The issue is that the word "that" is an ambiguous reference. Grammatically "that" could refer to several different items, but the most logical reference is to the immediately preceding sentence. Did you really mean to say that if your sentence makes sense to the reader, then the reader hasn't really thought it out? Maybe you were engaging in some self-effacing bit of Zen wisdom, but I doubt it. What were you trying to say?


      But getting back to the power that created the universe, you haven't established that the power is/was sentient, let alone that the power is actually your favorite deity.

      But later on you say that quantum fields are God. ( So I suppose Quantum Fields should be capitalized.) I attribute to God quite a number of attributes, such as being vengeful, loving, self-aggrandizing, omnipotent, eternal, omnipotent, mythological and non-existent. So Quantum Fields have all those attributes?
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        Apr 1 2012: You are right about other documents as well. I don't use the bible as the truth, I use it as a way to seek the truth. Until I understand it, it is only words. I seek to see beyond the words.

        I see the power that created the universe to be the same power we claim to be God. The universe, even if it brought itself into creation by laws of quantum fields, is real in itself.

        As far as the confusion, you are right that the wording is off. What I was trying to say is if you can believe that the universe is real, but the power that brought it into existence is not real, it makes no sense to me.

        I only see one deity and that is quantum fields. I believe that we are all connected because of an experience that I had when I was nine. I came to understand the principle of quantum fields eleven years before I received any formal training on the subject. I still don't know how such an experience was possible. I had two way communication with something.

        Quantum fields are the source from which all things come and back to where they go. They are singular, and therefore, neither good nor evil, they are the great I AM. When appearances emerge, they break into pairs of opposites, and there is where good and evil emerge. We seek to understand that power so that we can benefit from its blessings and avoid its curses. The same power that lights a city will cook you to death if you don't understand the rules. The rules are based on quantum fields and our place within them. They are the master, we are the servant.

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