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This Question is for the people that believe in god. (Atheist views also please)

Did you ever thought of this, and if so, please explain to me how does this make sense to you,
Because it doesn't to me.

BTW I'm atheist, but I'm asking this question from a christian point of view.
(I don't claim to no everything, just a truth seeker)

OK, Here we go:

God created you,(Remember you didn't ask to be here,) and then gave you an ultimatum, Worship me and go to Heaven, or You'll burn for eternity in my hell fire.

But...What if i don't want either, why can't i create a third option?
Really, is there any free will in this or is this just free choice?
Besides were ever i was before you created me, am sure i was perfectly fine.
then you decide to bring me here and trap me in your Crappy Options (Heaven or Hell).

Ofcourse if am a believer i wouldn't want to burn in hell, so i'll pick the other option which is heaven.
but am only picking heaven because hell sucks a bit more.

So basically it's worship me or you'll pay. and if i decide not to, Hell awaits me. So, if god really is love why is he so upset and is going to burn me indefinitely, because i think he's a myth that man created to find solace in?
i mean, what type of god leaves no evidence at all, and gets angry because i don't acknowledge him? Let's face it, you can tell me god did it, god created it, god this, god that..but it's all faith based. No matter how much you tell me, you have no proof. So as far as am concerned, if i tell you a pink unicorn in blue jeans created all of this, you can't disprove that.

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    Matthieu Miossec 100+

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    Mar 19 2012: What also isn't fair is that you have to bear the load of all your ancestors as though what they did was your own fault. That's the thinking behind original sin, our ancestor sinned which makes us guilty by descent. Mad isn't it?
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      Mireille Chéry

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      Mar 20 2012: Common Matthieu, please!! Look at all the Germans, their ancestors, their history....I don't see any German dying of hunger, poverty and all...

      What did the Africans did to have been in slavery through history...just because of the color of their skin!!

      To each their own choice to cherish, adore and love God, and the ones that don't it's your perogative...lets not blame something that we don't comprehend, specially when "atheism" or any others that don't regconize God as God!

      Peace
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        Matthieu Miossec 100+

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        Mar 20 2012: Well of course its not reflected in reality, the whole idea is nonsense. Don't shoot the messenger, I think it's all nonsense myself. You can't deny though that this is indeed the thinking behind original sin, that somehow we are sinful just for being Adam and Eve's children. Nobody can help what they did (they didn't exist but pretending for a second they did) and nobody should have to carry their sin as the old testament proclaims or be forgiven for a sin they didn't commit as the new testatment claims. The idea that we are bound by the sins of our fathers is preposterous, but it's exactly what the Bible claims.
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          Mireille Chéry

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          Mar 20 2012: Ok Matthieu, I'll give you a thumbs up for that : Don't shoot the messenger.

          It's all good people...this is your right to advocate your belief!!

          Cheers
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          Frans Kellner 100+

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          Mar 20 2012: Matthieu, maybe the story has more to it than most people think.
          The Bible has at least two stories of creation and this one originated from the Sumerians.
          If you see the first human as being the first animal that became self-aware and started to use language that were styled as the parental pair Adam and Eve. The tree of life is nature at large while the tree of good and bad was the human race that from then on could choose.
          Unlike animals they could judge and act upon any situation at will. That independence made them act in accord to their own shortsighted vision which led to erosion and depletion of resources. Their offspring started cultures presented by Cain and Abel that were much in conflict as nomads with cattle still have problems with settlers or farmers.
          So by becoming self aware humans broke down paradise and ruined nature which they call a sin. This goes on up till today as humans upheaval the earth surface to mine for minerals and fuel while the last rainforests are chopped down as the oceans are depleted of fish and the water is made acidic. Sea and surface water are made into a sewer system how sinful can one be or in other words how far can we oppose nature at large. Hell or paradise? We can still choose but only if all humanity cooperates to restore the damage done.
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          Tim blackburn 30+

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          Mar 21 2012: i agree with your first and fourth paragraph there
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        Matthieu Miossec 100+

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        Mar 20 2012: Frans, That's very damning for non-human animals and the gradualist nature of nature, don't know that I agree with this interpretation (which, as far as I can tell sounds like a Karen Armstrong type belief, sophisticated and context-aware, but held by maybe a dozen people).
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      Shaheem Carter

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      Mar 20 2012: Beyond mad!!!!

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